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	<title>Comments on: Macross Frontier 10</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: I was also wraped up in the Macross Zero revisit.

Chris: Plus was one of my favorites too.

If you&#039;re interested I posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moonlightjade.com/?p=30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some comparison videos of episode 10 and Zero&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: I was also wraped up in the Macross Zero revisit.</p>
<p>Chris: Plus was one of my favorites too.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested I posted <a href="http://www.moonlightjade.com/?p=30" rel="nofollow">some comparison videos of episode 10 and Zero</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t relate to your issue with Zero&#039;s plot. I don&#039;t remember any flaws that would have bothered me. I consider it as a stand-alone story, at least it works very well without requiring being familiar with the Macross universe.

It&#039;s probably not fair to compare a high-budget 5 episode OVA with a 26 episodes TV show but in my opinion Zero&#039;s art and animation easily beats the crap out of Frontier&#039;s. First of all, Zero&#039;s use of colour is very pleasing. The backgrounds are exceptionally beautiful - obviously the settings helps a lot. The characters have a rather realistic style, almost un-anime-like.

On the other hand, Frontier looks like bubble-gum colour-wise, the character designs are more unrealisticly anime-like and drawn heavily inconsistent. Also their behaviour is more inline with typical anime characters. Even in Zero you could tell what scenes made use of computer graphics but it was used more cautiously. In Frontier most of the computer graphics stick out like a sore thumb and while it looks okay, I can&#039;t see 6 years of progress in computer animation in there. Granted, especially the first two episodes had some scenes which looked really good and much better than the rest of the show, quality-wise up to par with Zero despite a rather different style. In the end, the best animation doesn&#039;t help if the plot is pretentious or fluff stuff. I wouldn&#039;t apply this to Frontier (yet) but to other shows that may look great but are otherwise just cheap and silly (GEe I&#039;m such an ASS).

The fight scenes in space look rather random and their choreography is nowhere near as impressive and beautiful to watch as those fights in Zero. The classical orchestra BGM for fights in space isn&#039;t my thing either.

Of course, Frontier doesn&#039;t want to be like Zero, it&#039;s based on Macross 7 after all.

Plus would be my second favourite Macross. As it&#039;s from a different era, it takes a bit getting used to but it looks rather excellent for something from the early 1990s. The noses could have been less pointy maybe. Again I like that the character designs are more on the realistic and adult side. Though I found the plot more harder to get into than Zero&#039;s. I admit I&#039;ve never watched the original Macross TV series except for a single episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t relate to your issue with Zero&#8217;s plot. I don&#8217;t remember any flaws that would have bothered me. I consider it as a stand-alone story, at least it works very well without requiring being familiar with the Macross universe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably not fair to compare a high-budget 5 episode OVA with a 26 episodes TV show but in my opinion Zero&#8217;s art and animation easily beats the crap out of Frontier&#8217;s. First of all, Zero&#8217;s use of colour is very pleasing. The backgrounds are exceptionally beautiful &#8211; obviously the settings helps a lot. The characters have a rather realistic style, almost un-anime-like.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Frontier looks like bubble-gum colour-wise, the character designs are more unrealisticly anime-like and drawn heavily inconsistent. Also their behaviour is more inline with typical anime characters. Even in Zero you could tell what scenes made use of computer graphics but it was used more cautiously. In Frontier most of the computer graphics stick out like a sore thumb and while it looks okay, I can&#8217;t see 6 years of progress in computer animation in there. Granted, especially the first two episodes had some scenes which looked really good and much better than the rest of the show, quality-wise up to par with Zero despite a rather different style. In the end, the best animation doesn&#8217;t help if the plot is pretentious or fluff stuff. I wouldn&#8217;t apply this to Frontier (yet) but to other shows that may look great but are otherwise just cheap and silly (GEe I&#8217;m such an ASS).</p>
<p>The fight scenes in space look rather random and their choreography is nowhere near as impressive and beautiful to watch as those fights in Zero. The classical orchestra BGM for fights in space isn&#8217;t my thing either.</p>
<p>Of course, Frontier doesn&#8217;t want to be like Zero, it&#8217;s based on Macross 7 after all.</p>
<p>Plus would be my second favourite Macross. As it&#8217;s from a different era, it takes a bit getting used to but it looks rather excellent for something from the early 1990s. The noses could have been less pointy maybe. Again I like that the character designs are more on the realistic and adult side. Though I found the plot more harder to get into than Zero&#8217;s. I admit I&#8217;ve never watched the original Macross TV series except for a single episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Epi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I guess I should be a bit more specific. Zero was simply groundbreaking when it was released. But with the newest HD anime such as Frontier&#039;s first 2 episodes and Gundam 00, animation in a weekly TV series has progressed to the point where Zero&#039;s amazing animation is no longer such a &#039;big deal&#039;. It&#039;s still awesome but not so special any longer.

My vote for best Macross series has to be Macross Plus without question, followed by DYRL. Plus had the best music, most memorable songs, awesome well written and exciting storyline wrapped up with an top rate ending. Zero&#039;s wacky story really did nothing for me especially the last episode which was a completely letdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I guess I should be a bit more specific. Zero was simply groundbreaking when it was released. But with the newest HD anime such as Frontier&#8217;s first 2 episodes and Gundam 00, animation in a weekly TV series has progressed to the point where Zero&#8217;s amazing animation is no longer such a &#8216;big deal&#8217;. It&#8217;s still awesome but not so special any longer.</p>
<p>My vote for best Macross series has to be Macross Plus without question, followed by DYRL. Plus had the best music, most memorable songs, awesome well written and exciting storyline wrapped up with an top rate ending. Zero&#8217;s wacky story really did nothing for me especially the last episode which was a completely letdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Macross Zero is certainly the best Macross in all regards not just animation. Its animation is clearly unsurpassed by Frontier. Macross 7 is something few will acknowledge it exists at all and Frontier being based on it let me expect the worst. So far it&#039;s very different though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macross Zero is certainly the best Macross in all regards not just animation. Its animation is clearly unsurpassed by Frontier. Macross 7 is something few will acknowledge it exists at all and Frontier being based on it let me expect the worst. So far it&#8217;s very different though.</p>
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		<title>By: Epi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next up: Nanase moves to Canada...

Otou-san: Don&#039;t worry about it... when it came out Zero was mostly noted for ridiculously good animation. But I&#039;d say that Frontier&#039;s first few episodes were about the same quality... Zero&#039;s story is pretty odd to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next up: Nanase moves to Canada&#8230;</p>
<p>Otou-san: Don&#8217;t worry about it&#8230; when it came out Zero was mostly noted for ridiculously good animation. But I&#8217;d say that Frontier&#8217;s first few episodes were about the same quality&#8230; Zero&#8217;s story is pretty odd to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Kabitzin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kabitzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the team wanted to show that Nanase is not important to the plot.  When even Leon gets a change of clothes and you don&#039;t, you know you are even less that just a side-character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the team wanted to show that Nanase is not important to the plot.  When even Leon gets a change of clothes and you don&#8217;t, you know you are even less that just a side-character.</p>
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