Gundam Seed Destiny 1

One of the new season’s most anticipated series, GSeed: Destiny is the direct follow up to last year’s uber-popular Gundam Seed, and picks up near where the last series left off (albeit a bit farther in the future). At the conclusion of the first series, the war between the Orb, ZAFT, and the Earth Alliance became a total mess after the EA launched nukes at the civilian colonies, and ZAFT’s Death Star thing disintegrated the Earth’s moon base. A tenuous peace was achieved, and everything seemed hunky-dorky.

At the start of this new series, we flash back to the past, when the EA was attacking Orb’s capital, and Kira was engaging the 3 crazy Earth pilots. We see a family running towards the evac boats, but the daughter drops her cell phone and throws a fit, so her elder brother runs to go get it. A stray shot from Kira blasts the area, killing the family, except for the boy who ran off to get the cell phone.

Fast forward to the future, where Cagalli has inherited leadership of Orb, and she’s traveling to ZAFT territory for a clandestine meeting with the new ZAFT leader concerning their recent weapons buildup. Enter a rogue group of youngsters of unknown affiliation, who manage to hijack ZAFT’s newest Gundam models, and begin a rampage through the military base. Cagalli and Asuran are caught in the middle, helpless as newborns. Luckily, they are saved by the new Impulse model, piloted by none other than the boy in the flashback, who’s now grown up and serving in the ZAFT military.

First of all, let me make this clear: this episode was flat out awesome, and is a real treat for fans of the first series. The original Gundam Seed started out as a mediocre series that gradually gained steam over 50-odd episodes to become worthy in its own right. Now that the producers already have some momentum, let’s hope they don’t f*ck this one up. Some familiar faces return for this new round, but most likely they’ll take a back seat to the newer cast members.

Some minor quibbles:
1. As much as I like Hirai Hisashi’s character designs, they’re all starting to look a bit similar. Some of the new chars have very familiar faces, but different hair. There’s a Frey look-alike, a Cagalli look-alike (and she’s not even dead yet!), a Kira look-alike, etc.

2. Speaking of which, the main Gundam looks too similar in design to the main Gundam of the first GSeed (the Strike model), but that’s sort of a tradition. Still annoying though.

3. The intro shows a few flashes of Kira’s Freedom Gundam, but wasn’t it blown up in the first series? Don’t tell me the Impulse Gundam eventually evolves to something that looks similar….

4. The BEST part of the episode is when Asuran and Cagalli hijack the beat up Zaku in order to survive. As fans of Gundam know, Zakus are like the Chevys of Gundam; they suck big time, and the cupholders don’t even work. Typically they are the “background fodder” for the main character to blow up, and it’s interesting to see the tables turned. Asuran puts up a good fight, and I enjoyed seeing him go toe-to-toe with the flashy new Gundams.

107 Comments

  1. Kabitzin (1521)
    Posted 10/11/2004 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    ZOMG, so they blow up the Toyota and Honda Gundams?! That is stretching suspension of disbelief too far!

    And your comment about the cupholders incites me into a frothy rage…

  2. BigFire (3)
    Posted 10/11/2004 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Asuran obivously got the HERO+10 bonus working in spades.

  3. Fencedude (109)
    Posted 10/11/2004 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    The Zaku’s in Seed Destiny are actually ZAFT’s top of the line grunt suits, so they are pretty good suits. Hell, Lunamaria and Rei Za Barrel will be piloting Zakus, and they are featured right along Asuran and Shin in the opening.

    And the shots of Freedom in the opening showed it dueling Impulse, so I don’t think we’ll have to worry about Shin getting the Freedom.

  4. Ender (422)
    Posted 10/11/2004 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Yup, the Zaku jacked by Asuran was one of the next-generation Zakus (the Warrior class - same one as Lunamaria, but a step below the Phantom class that Rei pilots). However, grunt suits are still grunt suits :( On a related note, the intro shows Deakka and Isaac piloting a couple variants of the Zaku Phantom. Surprising to see Zakus being featured so prominently instead of Gundams!

    Btw, the intro also shows Asuran paired off with Lacus in one scene….what’s up wth that?

  5. Fencedude (109)
    Posted 10/11/2004 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Btw, the intro also shows Asuran paired off with Lacus in one scene…what’s up wth that?

    Well, that is starting to get into some rampant speculation. Long story short there is a theory going around that there are TWO Lacuses (Lacii?) in Destiny.

    Note during the opening that we see Lacus three times, first singing by herself, then with Asuran, and then naked with Kira. If you look closely you can see that the hairpin that the one with Asuran is wearing is not her normal hairpin, and she looks somewhat different than she does in the other two shots.

    Also, Lacus appears twice in the ending sequence. First she is seen sitting on top of Impulse, and then again at the end with Kira.

    And finally, there is this post over on AnimeOnDVD.com that shows what the Japanese fans are speculating.

    Two Lacuses?

  6. Ender (422)
    Posted 10/12/2004 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Hmm…on the other hand, it could be an extreme case of character design reuse ^_^ j/k, although Hisashi’s char designs have been running low in the creativity department recently….

  7. Name Me (1)
    Posted 10/15/2004 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Yay….. Gundam Seed AGAIN!! :)

  8. FANMAN (1)
    Posted 10/28/2004 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    heey people, i’ve got a question for u all. they say : There’s a Frey look-alike, a Cagalli look-alike (and she’s not even dead yet!), a Kira look-alike, etc. when they sai Cagalli lookalike ( and she’s not even dead yet!), a Kira look-alike etc. do they mean that Kira is sort of dead in Gundam Seed Destiny?? because that would be f*ckt up big time.

  9. i LOVE ANimE (1)
    Posted 11/7/2004 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    hmmm…letsee Why the F’ does Asuran have those gay ass glasses and if Asuran gets anything worse than the Justice suite then i am just going to be pissed

  10. Posted 11/11/2004 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    I’m Gundam Friends

  11. Duo (1)
    Posted 11/13/2004 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    may i know who is the guy sitting under Yzaku In the ending scene… is it someone from the gundam seed msv

  12. audrey (1)
    Posted 11/15/2004 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Well, I was so angry to see La cus standing behind Asuran! I hate Lacus! hate it!!!!!!!so much!!!!! If Lacus try to get Asuran away from Cagalli, I will hate Destiny forever and ever! I will curse the author, I will curse Destiny! It’s enough she have Kira!!!Bull shit her!

  13. Amreen (1)
    Posted 11/18/2004 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    I just want to let viewers know that YOU CAN STOP SUPPORTING THE RUDE COMMENTS ABOUT LACUS CLYNE!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is my FAVOURITE character in Gundam SEED and I ABSELOUTLY HATE CAGALLI!!!!!! She is a TOTAL CREEP!!!!!

  14. Kabitzin (1521)
    Posted 11/19/2004 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    OMG, hahaha this is quickly becoming one of the funniest lines of comments on the blog. People REALLY feel strongly about this series!

  15. flame (1)
    Posted 11/27/2004 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    hey …in episode 07 is kira gonna do something…? i hope he does… he’s my frav charac… wy did shinn become the main charac… kira shd be the one

  16. joe (1)
    Posted 1/7/2005 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Freedom Gundam will be back on Gundam SEED Destiny Ep.11…. e old archangel oso…. they where secertly kept n repaired after e war 2yrs ago… SO COOL…. get to see my fav gundam…..

  17. Freedom (1)
    Posted 1/15/2005 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    13 actually, Freedom and Arch Angel get repaired, The new Freedom is totally awesome strong enough to lift a mobile suit on its shield and flip it over effortlessly!

    Kira’s time in seclusion is coming to an end his days of glory have returned. And don’t worry Athrun’s new suit is no worse than Justice, he gets a mad mobile suit by the name of Saviour

  18. jessie A. (1)
    Posted 1/27/2005 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    oh kira you must fight fight until you die

  19. betsy (3)
    Posted 5/15/2005 at 5:31 am | Permalink

    i like lacus and athrun.they should be together.lacus should not be with kira.cagalli should not be with athrun.this makes me hate the story.

  20. betsy (3)
    Posted 5/15/2005 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    i am glad that frey is dead.i absolutely HATE her.she is not even pretty nor cute.

  21. betsy (3)
    Posted 5/15/2005 at 5:43 am | Permalink

    i absolutely despise FREY and CAGALLI.they are not even pretty.lacus is the one who should be in the leading role.

  22. Amber (1)
    Posted 6/5/2005 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    I liked Frey, She added ’spice’ into the story with all her vengefullness.. And I don’t like Cagolli in Gundam SEED Destiny but she was awesome in Gundam Seed. What Happened?

  23. Eduardo (1)
    Posted 6/12/2005 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I just watched GSD ep 34, and there Shinn Asuka Beats Kira Yamato, i hope he isnt dead because Shinn is a selfish little brat and Kira is the Hero. Im hoping he isnt dead, last i saw was shinn perferon freedom in the pilots part (omg), then kira’s face of surprise, and last a big explosion (because the nuclear fueled engine of freedom). But its weird becuase at the same time Minerva Used its main weapon to destroy Archangel, its simply too coincidental that Freedom and Archangel were destroyed int he same ep at almost the same time (ep 38 its named New Flag i hope Kira reappears there, 1 month to wait). If Shinn really did kill KIra, im afraid GSD just passed from The Best Anime I Ever Watched, to one of those animes were they f**k up in some part and KILL the fans hope, or object of admiration. Like Evangelion, very good anime, but the last 2 episodes and movies, dude, I didnt buy the Evangelion BOX Sets because of that. If Anyone has any info about Kira’s destiny, please Send me a mail or post here.

  24. govinda (1)
    Posted 6/13/2005 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    kira isn’t dead. if he is then who’s gonna pilot strike freedom. also the cockpit on freedom is a little different from normal MS or gundam. it’s right under the head so he wasn’t impaled. although that still doesn’t explain how he’ll survive the explosion though.. but at least he probably won’t die like auel.

  25. Nikerym (1)
    Posted 6/17/2005 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, besides, they usually show people’s bodies blowing up or helmets breaking up when people die. Anybody remember Heine and Nicole Amalafi?

  26. Aimi (6)
    Posted 6/19/2005 at 3:58 am | Permalink

    It would be pretty bad for the ratings if they killed kira. I mean they cant kill kira…although they killed auel (still hoping one day he will be ressurected..very unlike gundam tho :P) They really should stop killing so many cool characters.

  27. rei_21 (1)
    Posted 6/19/2005 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    well, i think kira is alive….i will not post any spoilers here….but to keep your hopes (and the ratings) alive, kira is alive but injured….just keep watching….=)

  28. Bory (3)
    Posted 6/19/2005 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Ok so kira is alive, I am just so curious as to how the Strike Freedom will come about and the rumoured return of Infinite Justice (Justice Modded I asume) But at the end of ep 35 Athrun gets Legend (La Krueze big dadddy gundam seed ep49-50) but i have a feeling that will be reys and he is like La Krueze son or summet. But what orb will just rebuild Freedom? even tho it was a zaft design or the name Strike Freedom means they will make it from parts of freedom and Strike Rouge… I hope its not lame and there is just another freedom waiting for him at orb… and arent orb idiots atm??

  29. Kuju (3)
    Posted 6/25/2005 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    well….athrun won’t get legend because he is always the one who gets the red ass gundam….like the news reporter girl say, he is the knight in red…so that means saviour will be mostly be with athrun and legend will mostly be someone else gundam….and they won’t be rebuilding any freedom cause if freedom is here then there won’t be destiny….well most people think like that….

  30. Kuju (3)
    Posted 6/25/2005 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    well….i was wrong….hehe….they did rebuild freedom actually….hehe….my mistake….

  31. Niki (1)
    Posted 6/28/2005 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    ok, for all u ppl who dpn’t like Cagalli U SUCK BIG HAIRY MONKEY BALLS! and i HATE Lacus! she’s so freakin’ annoying! it sucks that Kira is with her, and i like AthrunxCagalli! they’re so perfect 2gether! and i seriously hope that Kira is alive cuz he’s 1 of my fav. characters and he’s really hot! well, i just wanted to say that

  32. Posted 6/29/2005 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    MEER IS THE BEST SEED FEMALE EVER ‘CAUSE SHE’S GOT THE BOUNCING BOOBS OF AWESOME. BEAT THAT, CAGALLI/LACUS/MURRUE/LUNAMARIA/MEYRIN! :C

  33. eman (2)
    Posted 7/5/2005 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    I Love Athrun!!! He kick ASS!!!!

  34. jane (1)
    Posted 7/6/2005 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    meer sucks that sissy girl! and kira didnt die cagalli rescued him in the water and i just have one question where did meyrin and athrun go? man…. meer sucks

  35. Ragnorak (1)
    Posted 7/7/2005 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Athrun S$%k and Kira S$%k… This anime stink… Kira should have been killed by Athrun in the previous Seed series. man u guys stink for watching this boring show…. OUT..!!!

  36. eman (2)
    Posted 7/8/2005 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    No WAY Athrun Sucks!!!! Get a Life will you.. Gundam Seed Destiny is COOL!!!

  37. Posted 7/11/2005 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    GUNDAM SEED ROCKS, I THINK THAT GUNDAM SEED IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT HAS THE CUTE BOYS EVER, I THINK THAT YZAK, DEARKA, ATHRUN, KIRA, MWU, NICOLAS, SAI AND LOTS MORE ARE THE HOTES BOYS EVER. ALL SO I LOVE THE LAST NAME OF LA FLAGA, AND LA CRUSADE. I ALL SO LOVE ANIME I THINK IT ROCKS.GUNDAM SEED IS THE BEST CARTOON EVER. ^_^

  38. Posted 7/11/2005 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I ALL SO THINK THAT FLAG IS A ”””””””*. AND MORE.

  39. Aero (2)
    Posted 7/11/2005 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    I agree that they messed up badly by making shinn the main character. Two reasons for that really. 1) his attitude makes him unlikable. 2) he’s stupid and easily manipulated. It would have been best if they had stuck with the main characters of the original Gundam Seed. Also, all the old main characters could use a lot more screen time. But my main complaint is about shinn. He also goes into seed mode too often. Spoils the uniqueness by having it occur too often. Oh yeah, and the fact that Athrun seemed to only say “…shinn!” for half the episodes of gundam seed destiny while he was with zaft really pissed me off too.

  40. Kaira (1)
    Posted 7/11/2005 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    I love Gundam Seed + Destiny, they rock! N STOP INSULTING the characters (Athrun, Cagalli, Kira and Lacus), they are cool, and i m quite disappointed that they dont really have great parts in the Destiny episodes…

  41. Serene (1)
    Posted 7/12/2005 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Ok,does anyone know if Lacus actually dies in the series? not that I want her to…

  42. Kristianne (1)
    Posted 7/12/2005 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Cagalli and Asuran make a nice couple. =)

  43. naima (1)
    Posted 7/17/2005 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    yes they do,, except i dont care much for cagalli - i mean shes so kool in seed but ATHRUN!!! *yummy* love him, ha! stupid lacus for leaving him and for kira that wishy washy punk– hail athrun!!! WHOO!

  44. Bill (1)
    Posted 7/25/2005 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    I want to marry Cagolie.She’s so cute and hot!She’s also so awesome!

  45. sherly (1)
    Posted 7/27/2005 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    yeah it’s good that there are old seed characters in destiny but i don’t really care about the new characters since
    1) i hate shinn. it’s not his fault that his families die in that detruction thing but how could he blamed the whole thing to cagalli!
    2) so many girls like athrun… athrun is only for cagalli forever
    3) i hate chairman dullindal. he acts nice but mean deep inside
    4) that imposter mia campbell whatever her name is pretending to be lacus clyne. it’s not like i hate lacus or has a grudge against her but i hate that imposter!

  46. Winnie (1)
    Posted 7/30/2005 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Seed was better den Destiny cuz destiny is just a repetition and Shinn is so unlikeable (why in the world is he the main character?) I liked Asuran and Cagalli together in Seed but wat happened to their character in Destiny?…Cagalli being all whingy and Asuran being arrogant…I also hate how there’s all these girls all over asuran…(Asuran and Cagalli are so cute as a couple!!!!) Is it true that Cagalli might die in Destiny because if she does I am so not gonna buy the DVD box set! They should’ve ended with seed or just do a finale movie

  47. Miki (1)
    Posted 8/1/2005 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    I hope Cagalli doesn’t die in Seed Destiny, she’s my fave character. I’ve also heard from a source that Stellar (the Cagalli look-alike) is killed by Kira.

    As for the Lacus look-alike, Her name is Meer Campbell, she wants to be a popstar like Lacus, or so I’ve heard. Lavus has the ’squiggle’ hair clip, Meer has the stars. You can also differentiate the original Lacus form the new one because the new one, Meer, has bigger breasts (just another fanboy speaking)

    Also, I am actually HAPPY to see that Seed Destiny is following traditional Gundam guidelines. The hero looks similar to the previous one, the Gundam looks similar to the previous one, etc. (this time, 3 dude with 3 similar Gundams from the ones in Seed). Traditionally, Seed and Seed Destiny share similar story/character baseline as G Gundam and Gundam Wing. 5 Gundams, 1 girl who always gets saved by the hero, etc. Almost all the Gundams except the hero/main character’s Gundam has a color theme. The hero has blue, yellow, red, whatever. Unlike the rest, everyone else has a theme. ie. in Seed, Kira+Strike=Blue, white, red, w/e. Asuran+Aegis/Justice= red color, I won’t bother stating the rest.

  48. Timothy (1)
    Posted 8/5/2005 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    i love kira! he kicks their ememy’s butts and ass man!

  49. Posted 8/7/2005 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Ok first of all. Shinn should die. A PAINFUL DEATH! He’s the devil. MY GOD HE IS SOOOO DAMN ARROGANT!!!! And i hate him. FOR ALL YOU SHINN LOVERS….HE’S SCREWED UP BIG TIME! I doubt anyone would like shinn anyways. If you do…YOUR FUCKED UP. i hate you too if you even think he’s cute. He’s monkey ASS UGLY!!! and he should like have never ever played the main character. That’s the only thing that screwed up the damn series. I like everything else EXCEPT STUPID GOD DAMNED SHINN…okay i;m done. later days..=)

  50. julian (1)
    Posted 8/9/2005 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    To MR SHINNSUX:
    he doesnt..ok if he does wad abt:
    1.)wussy kira hu wldnt kill
    2.)loser asuran hu lost his aegis/justice/savior+his girl+his balls to kira
    3.)whiny cagali hu did nothin but cry
    4.)rey hus tryin to act mysterious
    5.)lunamaria hu has the shootin skills of a heroine addict on marijuana
    6.)meer hu totally destroyed lacus’ songs
    7.)arthur the decorative sidekick
    n so on..
    yeah so mister..shinn’s nt dat bad after all…
    n plz..use more refined language..

    or u’ll juz b the character dat u described so well
    gd dae!

  51. Posted 8/9/2005 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Hey u can’t talk like that to cagalli your messsing with a wrong person here!

  52. eric (1)
    Posted 8/13/2005 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    What is this? I gots a question for u all. Do u truly hate the cahrecter u hate rit now? I like all charecters except for shinn and his GODAMN ATTITUDE PROBLEM!

  53. OrchidZala (4)
    Posted 8/14/2005 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    Hey, I was just wondering if the series is still being made? I dont want to sound dumb but i just finnished watching Seed, and Im only like… 7 episodes into Seed Destiny (I love it, but im gonna beat those womens off of athrun from what i hear!!!) But anyway back to my point… how many episodes are there so far i know of up to 41? but does the series continue to 50? or 49? like most gundam series? I just want to know if Athrun does end up with Cagalli?? So yeah that’s my question!!

    - Orchid Zala

  54. Luna (1)
    Posted 8/15/2005 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Shinn - don’t even go into why he sucks

    Athrun - cool, sexy, and OMG WHAT A HOTTIE!!!!!!!

    Lacus - CUTE and SWEET (stupid people hate her because *in a high-pitched voice* seH’s sooooooo anYoing111111111111111)

    Cagalli - I don’t care about her.

    Kira - OMG WHAT A CRYBABY! HE’S THE WEAKEST, MOST IDIOTIC CHARACTER IN THE WHOLE SHOW! HOW DARE HE ALLOW FLAY TO MANIPULATE HIM AND HOW DARE HE ROB SAI OF A GIRLFRIEND AND HAPPINESS! I HOPE THEY KILL THIS GUY!!!!!!!

  55. kerrie123 (1)
    Posted 8/17/2005 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    OMGGGGGG!!!!! how can they do this to us…. Kira isn’t the main charater anymore….grrrr. that was won of the main rason i watched the show….cry i lov kira…..they replace him with that imbicele..stupid baka..Shinn…………No 1 can ever replac kira wahhhhhhhhh

  56. Caffiend_Neko (1)
    Posted 8/21/2005 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    I don’t know bout you, but I think there needs to be some serious Meer Bashing!! >_

  57. R (1)
    Posted 8/27/2005 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    does cagalli and athrun break up? they are such cool people they belong together

  58. Cerridwen (1)
    Posted 9/4/2005 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    From what I’ve seen so far, Athrun and Cagalli seem to be heading for splitsville. There’s a lot Athrun + Meyrin supporters lately, and it’s mostly because they don’t like what they did to Cagalli’s personality that they want Athrun to get a life and Meyrin seems to be falling into Zala in the 4th OP…ahh beautiful harem scene…XD

    Of course nobody could replace Kira. He’s the GOD of the SEED Universe. Now they’ve specifically stated that he’s a Newtype too. What, Strike Freedom + Newtype abilities + (maybe) SEED mode = Destiny Gundam (Shining FINGER~~~!!! XD) + SEED mode (even scarier than Kira’s walnut popping scenario)…well, only time could tell. I am a Kira fan and a Shinn fan (GASP~~~!!!), but I was cheering Shinn on when he destroyed Freedom, hell, he’s stealing the spotlight from Shinn’s show and his beam-spamming days just have to be SO over by now, what with his supposedly outdated suit (still considered to be the most powerful suit…O_o;;) that was also supposed to be ass-whupped by Savior (but Savior got ass-whupped in the process instead TT_TT). Destiny is supposed to be Shinn’s show, but now, Kira’s in the middle again…XO

    Shinn has a right to blame Cagalli. It was because of her indecisiveness that brought them back to war, and because of her principles (or Daddy’s principles) that took so many lives, not necessarily just his family’s own. Orb = supposed to be neutral nation, no no ZAFT, no no EAF. It’s like hey you got your principles, at LEAST stick to it, or KNOW how to defend it, in the face of all troubles or whatever. It’s like what Kira remarked before (or is it after?) the Destroy incident, when the Archangel only serves to add more confusion, because nobody knows that they’re actually doing it for a really good cause, and because ZAFT and EAF know them as threats, enemies…they’re Orb, or something like it, but the Orb everybody know is allied with the EAF…Kira et al seem to do a great job defending their principles, but at the same time creates confusion, and their principles don’t really seem to work in that current situation anymore. Now there’s the great Dullindal’s views are = Lacus’ views debate. They both use force in order to bring order out of chaos, but as Lacus’ ways are “stealthy” (quietly from behind the shadows), Dullindal’s is a more head-on approach, which would most definitely piss off more fans and praise Lacus to high heavens for her efforts. Just think of it. It’s like somebody suddenly declares that there’s a 7 PM curfew for all teenagers living in this certain area in order to avoid crimes or whatnot, WITHOUT asking them what they think FIRST before going on with the plan (like Dullindal’s plan). Lots of teenagers would be pissed off by it, but holy crap, it actually works. So that’s why a lot of people cheered when Dullindal said LOGOS is to blame, blah blah blah, it’s because they SEE that he’s DOING something.

    Why do lots of people hate Shinn? Is it because he’s quite a “real” character, a far cry from Kira, Athrun, Cagalli, Lacus? Is it because he does things “normal” good heroes don’t do? But why do we have to be restricted to seeing “good” anime heroes the way other “good” anime heroes are doing it? Shinn is Shinn, Shinn is not Kira, Kira is not Shinn, Athrun is not Kira, etc. etc. Shinn is your typical antihero, something that’s missing in anime these days, because they’re always going to the tried and tested “good” anime heroes 101 formula; and it really makes it boring (being so “good” anime heroes all the time). I like Shinn because he’s angsty, he’s angry at the entire damn world, he’s arrogant, he’s scary when he goes SEED mode, and he KNOWS what he wants and what he thinks about certain things; I didn’t like him because he’s so much like Kira, or any other yardstick that anime has to offer. Same goes for Fllay. People hate her because of some things she did which are really so way off what a “good” anime heroine should be doing, they say Lacus is perfect for Kira because she’s so holy and because she’s the GODDESS to Kira’s GOD. I am not saying that I condone what Fllay did to Kira, but people who hate her hate her because they seem to ignore the fact that she actually changed, or maintain that she is very evil, slutty, $#^#$* til the end of the series, which is NOT the case. Fllay is just one rich girl whose world got shattered because of one incident (and her Daddy meant the entire world to her), lashes out at Kira, manipulated him in order for the Archangel to survive the Desert Arc, realized too late that she had already fallen in love with him, and when she did had a chance to tell him her truest feelings, she dies, in a spectacular Lalah Sune ripoff, which leads me to think that Fllay also had or may not have Newtype powers; it was her death and her promise of protecting Kira with her truest feelings did Kira manage to survive his battle with Rau, and maybe saved the entire world with it. Oh, and for crap that Fllay haters say that Kira didn’t love her/have feelings for her, yadda yadda yadda, he wouldn’t have acted so affected when he first heard her voice again during the time Rau delivered Fllay to the Dominion (I forgot which druggie Gundam caught her) that Freedom got almost totalled, and the look of happiness/bliss he had when he last saw Fllay before Rau decides to make her escape pod go BOOM! And let me remind you that Kira already had a thing going on for Fllay before all that #@&^*@$ happened. I hate Lacus, because she’s too perfect. She’s very annoying, because she’s so…peaceful. I mean, I also didn’t like Relena Peacecraft that much, but at LEAST Relena was still a little believable. And where the hell did she get those commander-ing skills of hers?! Or her complete understanding of the entire ZAFT-EAF war situation?! We didn’t get to see her much until Kira popped in PLANT to be nursed back to health by her, and maybe because of her father’s job, or the news of what is actually happening outside that she knows things about the war…but come ON! One tete-a-tete later and she’s handing Kira the Freedom, which is like giving away your country’s top military secrets just for a box of Pocky. Then she hijacks PLANT’s flagship, then starts spreading her message of love and peace to everyone within a 5 mile radius of her Pink Spaceship of Doom. That amounts to treason, and every violation thereafter in the ZAFT’s Rulebook Of Forming And Commanding A Rogue Faction 101. Then she declares her love for Kira and gives her a ring, pleading him to come back to her, when they aren’t a couple yet, as IF she already owns Kira. WTF?! Fllay didn’t throw her arms around Kira and asked him to go back to her, as if she already owns him. And Kira’s GOD mode made the show really lopsided…he’s untouchable, he’s just a frigging GOD, and whatever stupid plot device Fukuda manages to throw in, Kira is always ALIVE, becomes STRONGER, and gets another new toy for all his troubles. Oh, and he develops Newtype powers. Hell, if ZAFT gives Shinn the Destiny, why would Lacus not pull off all the stops for her own knight of justice, and hand him a new Freedom with enough firepower to blast the entire PLANT colony system out of orbit?! If this (Kira, Lacus, Cagalli, Athrun, + all “good” anime heroes/heroines) is your brand of “good” anime heroes/heroines, then we can’t make you think otherwise, but at LEAST try to be broad-minded and stop rabid fanboyism/fangirlism before it gets out of hand; so let’s let Shinn be the main hero of Destiny and stop this “why isn’t Kira the main hero of Destiny because Shinn really SUXXXX” crap. But at the rate things are going, Kira worshipers should rejoice, Kira’s managed to hog the spotlight in the 4th OP again (started in 3rd OP, with Strike Freedom replacing Impulse in the opening titles),and he seems to be “back” as the show’s main hero. Whopee. TT_TT

  59. eric (not post 52 dude) (1)
    Posted 9/11/2005 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    God Cerridwen talks too much……seriously…no offense but look at it. I think Kiras really lucky. He someonehow manages to get all the ladies in the original seed. The love lives are so messed up tho. Kira and Cagali liked liked eachother b4 they found out they were twins. Athran and Lacus are engaged for diplomatic reasons like an arranged or shotgun marriage. Kira also gets flay. Then Kira gets Lacus(thats the 3rd) and Athrun gets Cagalli (loved her shower scene in the desert episodes in the original season. It might not hav been aired on some stations but if you buy the dvd it’ll show for about 10 seconds and im talkin boobs here instead of the usual shots of everything but the privates). Then Cagalli marries some other dude in destiny. On a different subject Lacus seems cute but her voice is so annoyin and she is so naive. As for cagalli still cant get mad at her b/c of the shower scene and i like feisty girls.

  60. Aimi (6)
    Posted 9/11/2005 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    Sorry, only skimmed through post so sorry if i repeat something.
    Hmmm…i dont h8 Shinn even tho he killed auel *still cries*…but i am not seeing how he is a main character anymore…he is hardly in the eps now days, its feels like he is stuck in the show just for the sake of it(not part of the main plot) O_o…
    I think shinn doesnt have a right to hate cagally though..Shinn seems to direct his revenge on people who arnt to blame, like Kira when stellar died, he should be angry at Neo if anyone…I must say that Shinn hogged the 4th opening Cerridwen, he take the last “eranda michaga” part while he is running…anyways getting long-Go Yzak and REY! Auel u still rock!!

  61. luckyfishy (33)
    Posted 10/26/2005 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    did anyone notice in both seed and seed destiny, the main gundam always appear at the very end then the ending music begins. Giving us a glance of the amazing gundam and leave us at that point. It is a gud ending, shame they lost the plot less than half way through.

  62. Saiyuri-hime (1)
    Posted 10/28/2005 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    OMG……. I won’t be able to stand it if Cagalli and Athur don’t get together *cry*

  63. Posted 11/8/2005 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    caagali and athrun make a good couple+kira and lucus.they are HOTTTT!!!

  64. Posted 11/13/2005 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    hey guys???ihave a question??!is cagali going to be back with athrun or with her f’k freak *husband*!!! i hope she divorce him and be back with athrun they make a great couple TOGETHER!!!actually the director of gundam seed destiny is stupid…..most of gundam seed fans have thoughts that kira will be with lacus and athrun will be with cagali!!!!!every cartoons have happy endings on both sides but this cartoon show is going to me crazy if cagali stays with her fucking freak husband
    WHY MUST SHE MARRRRRY HIMMMMMMMMMMMMM????????????????????
    I AM GOING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  65. Posted 11/13/2005 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    ANOTHER THING ///kira will be with lacus/ right??????!!!!!!please response gundam seed detiny FANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. sith (1)
    Posted 12/6/2005 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    though i was decieved by the end this is a good following story for gundam seed you who loved the first seed gonna become crazy when watching the destiny ,)

    shinn’s just full of himself
    meer campbell (2nd lacus) is funny though not enough exploited i think
    but DAMN MU LAFRAGA is back xD that worths the entire 50 episodes to be watched just to see that guy’s unbelievable humor ;p

  67. amuro (1)
    Posted 12/18/2005 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    boooooo seed destiny sucks like reallly in the last episode they rushed and wtf is kira keep on coming back. stupid dircter name fukuda or somthing sucks at directing even tomino the man who started gundam says he didnt like this series u ppl shouldd watch zeta gundm or gundam wing or the original mobile suit gundam serie. I like shinn until later he turn gay and kira the idiot stole back the spotlight.

  68. kiraxlacus fan (1)
    Posted 12/22/2005 at 5:05 am | Permalink

    hu eva said kira as a cry baby is an idiot hes so cool.. i dun get y ppl has to hate lacus when shes so sweet and so pretty kira x lacus make a great couple and i do hope cagalli breaksup with dat ass f’kin yuna or GSD’s gunna suck…

  69. crimsonangel17 (1)
    Posted 2/12/2006 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    OK just tell me………. Who does Athrun end up with? Meyrin or Cagali? DAMN! It better be Cagali! Meyrin doesn’t match with Athrun and they are NOT CUTE together!! COME ON! Athrun FREAKING PROPOSED TO Cagali!!

  70. GS Fan (2)
    Posted 3/7/2006 at 4:31 am | Permalink

    according to some sources, athrun and cagalli dont exactly get back togethr (like it leaves on a cliffhanger). but athrun and meyrin aren’t togethr neithr coz ther relationship is more of a brother-sister relationship. AND AND AND… CAGALLI DOESN’T MARRI THAT A$$HOLE!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! (^-^)

  71. im drunk (1)
    Posted 3/12/2006 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    i have no fucking idea what any of you just wrote all i know is i i want kira to be the main star

  72. Posted 3/14/2006 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Y THE F’ THAT A** H’ SHIN IS THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!! HES SO FU’ ANOYING!!!
    I m watchnig the destiny series just for KIRA and I SWEAR if anything hapens to kira ..*Cracks knuckles* … SHIN’s GONNA GET IT ON THE FORUMS….. A** FU** ARTS OF SHIN WILL BE ON THE ON NET!!!

  73. Inuyasha_all_the_way!! (4)
    Posted 3/15/2006 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    say, does any1 think that the maker of SEED and SEED Destiny is biased 2 one certain couple? *cough cough wink wink nudge nudge kick kick* KiraYamato and Lacus Clyne What about Cagalli and Athrun?? :(

  74. Karasu (2)
    Posted 3/15/2006 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    >_> Of course Gundam Seed Destiny is biased towards Lacus and Kira…That’s because Fukuda and his wife are biased towards those two characters. Didn’t they say that Fukuda’s favorite character is Kira and that he created Lacus from the image of his wife? (>.<)

  75. Karasu (2)
    Posted 3/15/2006 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    ** Just knowing that will tell you who they prefer as main characters…

    Oh yeah and, leave Shinn alone people, he’s AWESOME. Even if he is an emo fictional crybaby angst-machine…

    Athrun x Cagalli 4ever.

    –Karasu

  76. Inuyasha_all_the_way!! (4)
    Posted 3/15/2006 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    i really hate lacus clyne but i’m fine with those ppl who like her, as long as they don’t insult cagalli + athrun. then, if they do, things WILL get ugly. i mean, there’s gonna b some really rude comments and actions that WILL come up.
    thanx ppl 4 listenin! :D:D:D:D:D

  77. Inuyasha_all_the_way!! (4)
    Posted 3/15/2006 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    wow if fukada’s wife really Is supposed 2 look like lacus…i didn’t no ppl could come that ugly :0
    >

  78. Inuyasha_all_the_way!! (4)
    Posted 3/16/2006 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Athrun and Cagalli = :D Shinn and Stellar = :) Lacus and Kira = :(

  79. mr yamato (3)
    Posted 3/16/2006 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    i hate shinn and his god dam f”* attitude ilove lacus :) how i wish i was kira

  80. mr yamato (3)
    Posted 3/16/2006 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    kira and lucas = :) athrun and cagalli :(

  81. mr yamato (3)
    Posted 3/16/2006 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    cagalli is a f”** tomboy with that gaylish athrun

  82. cool_cat_cagalli (2)
    Posted 3/16/2006 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    excuse me??!! get a life u retard!! u have serious issues!how can u like that bitch lacus clyne??!!all she does is wave her breasts around and act “cute”!
    WHAT is wrong with you?? and who the hell is lucas ??!!
    as much as i hate to say it, kira’s not gay!!only lacus clyne is!

  83. cool_cat_cagalli (2)
    Posted 3/17/2006 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Cagalli+Yuuna=:(

  84. T_I (60)
    Posted 3/18/2006 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    Lacus Clyne is gay for Cagalli

    Oh wait.. that’s Mai Otome.

    Never mind.

  85. Gundam History X (2)
    Posted 3/25/2006 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    Alright… alright… everyone stop! we all know that for a fact that Kira and Lacus are ment to be together. [all those ppl. with th ideas of True love you know you love me ;)]. In the Anime, its about what is not said and how affection for love just seems to radiate from the animation. Cagalli and Athrun are a nice match, but Cagalli, like kira, crys easily and displays alot of emotion. Athrun on the othe hand displays no emotion when around others. But maybe this is why is is the ‘pimp’ of this series…hate to spoil it since this is only ep1. but after he rejoins ZAFT, he is persude by Luna, Meylin, and Meer. He seems to be the ‘player’ of the series and enjoys it too. But i still think that Athrun can’t compete with the Muu Pimp status. But i find it hard to see that LACUS is a ‘bitch’, when its MEER who is to total slut.

    Next time you all watch GS Destiny look for the stuff that is not said,like…
    (i Knwo I’m gonna get some fire for this but, Im just saying it)

    Teh relationship that Deaka and Yzak ( Deaka, always two steps behind Yzak, telling him to be calm….you put 2 and 2 together)[Still the 'Golden Gunner' is one of the better Charaters]

  86. above comment (2)
    Posted 3/25/2006 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    also… my analysis of the charaters may seem to be like a gay person, but HELL NO!!! STRAIT MALE ALL THE WAY!!!!!! and if you think otherwise….(you don’t wanna go there)

  87. Red Kurenai (1)
    Posted 3/29/2006 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Hey… If you don’t like the story just DON’T watch it.
    Anyways, I like Lacus, but that doesn’t mean I hate Cagalli… Cagalli is just fine…
    I like LacusxAthrun (Hey! This is my point of view so step off!)
    I respect your comments so respect ours too!!

  88. Mercedes (1)
    Posted 3/31/2006 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    MY OWN OPINIONS: (DO NOT TAKE PERSONALLY…)
    yea. i dont like Lacus very much. Meer is a bit wierd but redeemed when she saved Lacus. Real Lacus is cooler. But i like Cagalli best^-^. I think she’s an awsome character and a tomboy. (i guess some pple dont like tomboys..) And i dont think that she is a creep. she’s supposed to be weak in GSD. I mean, she’s an eighteen yr old trying to run a country. In fact she was basically tossed into the position without so suddenly. But i expected her to be a little stronger than what she portrayed in GSD. I would have liked to see Asuran and Cagalli end up together. I agree with some people. Shinn needs to die because I think Shinn needs to get a pshyciatrist. Meryin is just expendable. And i am pretty disappointed with the series. The epilogue sucked.
    And some ppl take the whole thing too personally.(like super fanatically…)

  89. shinran (1)
    Posted 4/16/2006 at 7:09 am | Permalink

    I LOVE GSD SO MUCH !!!! This is the best anime ever !!…But, i’m very dissapointed because Athrun is not Lacus’s fiancee again…I’M A BIG FAN OF THEM !! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH !! Anyway, go GSD !!!!

  90. Posted 5/2/2006 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    kira looks like shin asuka only thew hair is difrent .Yeah rock syeady !!! uuuu try to make a romantic story 4 my sister.. tq ok thats all gtg bubye love bb
    lolx..

  91. NeO (3)
    Posted 8/9/2006 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    I think that shinn really sucks. because he is always manipulated by those two pain in the ass durandil and rey. and shinn cant make up his mind. and why the hell is he the main character. shinn being the main character makes GDS bad. because he does nothing but go beserk. and also hes fighting position is kinda boring because is always like 1.(he goes beserk) 2.(then he step back then his wings spread) 3. (then he stabs his opponent with his big sword) its always like that…soo lame(i hate u shinn). you made me mad when i thought you killed kira, athrun, and luna.
    on the other hand KIRA is the best. he is only defeated by that looser shinn because kira just doesnt want yo hust him. if only that scenario with “KIRA Vs. SHINN”, that kira is not a merciful type of dude. he would have killed shinn. that all i think….(^^,)” ^O^

  92. NeO (3)
    Posted 8/9/2006 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    OH bye the way GDS..you rock hard..
    i hope that there will be another episode of GDS..^^
    thats all…
    ROK ON!..

    [Kira Lucas ^O^].. ..[shinn meyrin >.

  93. NeO (3)
    Posted 8/10/2006 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    hey sorry..I wrote an error in my first message, it was meyrin not luna who had an accident with athrun…^^”
    and also some errors in my sentences..(like kira doesnt want to hurt him)
    hehehe^^…lol….I have also noticed this to some of the ppl here…^^

    ok that all…buh byeee…
    Rok On…!

  94. NovanGirhanas (2)
    Posted 8/10/2006 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    will someone PLEASE give me a reason why people think that Cagalli is a creep. A GOOOD reason…

  95. Aznphatcheeks (1)
    Posted 8/12/2006 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Shit this the best anime i ever seen. but ya keep it up

  96. yurah (1)
    Posted 9/22/2006 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Seed Destiny sucked royally. They made Cagalli a crybaby and Kira too perfect…and worst of all they made Athrun stupid and idiotic. Why the hell did he go back to Zaft???? I hate it that they’re trying to break apart Cagalli and Athrun…AsuCaga forever!

    And yeah, Cagalli’s not a creep nor is she whiny…blame it on the stupid producers! F’ them all!

    The new characters all sucked too…would’ve been better off without them…especially Shinn

  97. sadasds (1)
    Posted 3/10/2007 at 2:50 am | Permalink

    ok kira is still the main character in seed destiny but they just made every thing stupied lbye adding shinn in it they make him seem like the main character till they show kira then he is the main character they just did not show alot of him

  98. Angelhorns (6)
    Posted 3/10/2007 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    ok i like cagalli with athrun i dont like lacus that much but she is a nice singer but her singing voice and her talking voice is way to different i like kira he is sensitive but he may cry a little to much shinn i understand why he is mad because his parents were killed but blame cagulli? i just started watching the series ( im on episode 2 :) but its hard to understand every thing when you have no idea who the characters are! well i king of like stella cause shes a dumb a*s like me thats all i got 2 say

  99. Angelhorns (6)
    Posted 3/10/2007 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    reply about my coments if you want!

  100. Irim (1)
    Posted 3/13/2007 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Cagalli is stupid little naive whiny bitch. God I hate that girl. Thinks she’s the shit and knows it all. Bullfuck. How the fuck do you defend peace without weapons? Stupid slut.

  101. Angelhorns (6)
    Posted 3/17/2007 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    OMG Irim calm down cagalli is not that bad i mean what do you want her to do blow up every one she meets I like her!