Dear Gundam Seed Destiny,
I’m sorry to say that you severely disappointed me. It’s as if your writers forgot where they were going with the plot and decided to cop out with a predictable ending. So Gilbert just turned out to be a maniacal zealot with not one but two superweapons, and the good guys have to once again lay the smack down. Can’t you do better than that? To add insult to injury, it was Rey that finally saw the light at the end, while Shinn remained faithfully idiotic. Whoopee. The only saving grace was that Luna didn’t get killed, but at this point her character was fairly inconsequential anyways.
Your beginnings were quite promising and you really hit your stride in the middle, providing so much wonderful fodder for fanart and blogging ridicule. It’s a shame that you went out with a whimper, not to mention the incredible amount of stock footage used in the last episode. I almost thought I was watching the mid-series recap episode.
Alas, I must give you an overall rating of 3.5/5. Not horrible, but falling short of greatness.
Sincerely,
Ender
P.S. I think Talia is now my choice of most psychotic character. “I love you even though you are a genocidal maniac!” Ah, sweet young love.
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> To add insult to injury, it was Rey that finally saw the light at the end, while Shinn remained faithfully idiotic. Whoopee. The only saving grace was that Luna didn’t get killed, but at this point her character was fairly inconsequential anyways.
I couldn’t agree more!! And looks like you’re back in stride w your short, sharp and sweet commentary style again. ^_^
Love the Sea Slugs! Anime Blog tagline of “Harder to Kill Than Lunamaria” btw.
a total disappointment, copied half or more stuff from SEED. I can’t imagine they are going to end Destiny this way. One thing surprised me though, Strike Freedom has Beam wings too? Then it is the most powerful MS in the whole thing. Combination of Destiny’s beam wings, Legends’ DRAGOON and some of the Freedom’s original design. I can’t believe Talia just asked Kira to ask Captain Ramius to see her son sometimes and just stay behind and die even though she doesn’t have to.
I also agree with the 3.5 rating, since this show totally fell off after the half. This was my first real experience with the Gundam universe and while I enjoyed the ride, I really just liked it for its characters. The action was pretty lame, especially later in the series, and the story was not that strong. The only two things that stayed consistently good in GSD were 1) the awesome music, although I didn’t like the last OP at all, and 2) the great and memorable characters that spawn massive fan-armies. I even ended up liking Shinn, although mostly because he is so easy to make fun of.
“To add insult to injury, it was Rey that finally saw the light at the end,
while Shinn remained faithfully idiotic.”
Roflmfao! Oh god, lemme get this straight starting from begginning to end. Shinn and Rey take on Athrun and Kira, they get owned horribly and Luna lives. Kira helps Talia go see her “son” Rey, and Rey kills the manical *NOW* insane chairman Dullindal. And does Shinn die im wondering that?
Lol oh ya and Yzak and Dearka both leave ZAFT… again…
Tip: For those guys, don’t rejoin ZAFT the next unit they’ll be seeing is the firing squad. LAWL
I wonder if they will show who the chairman will be in the new 40min oav.Maybe athuran or lacusu
I don’t even know whether there will be an OVA. Since the whole show is totally rediculous, they may just finish it off there and then.
As another one of the thousands of GSD fans,I have to say I could not be more disappointed. But, it shouldn’t have been unexpected as you could see the story barely keeping itself up. Atleast there’ll be a 40-minutes OVA coming out in February but I don’t think I’ll bother with the third series, if there is one. There are rumors that the third one is called Gundam Seed Eternity but I was pretty sure the animators didn’t want to make another sequel….whatever.
Hey, I can’t believe it but GSD replied to your email, Ender:
Sweet!
LOL. that’s a nice one. haha, watch yes, buy merchandise, nah… GSD’s not ever gonna make it on my DVD wishlist.
holly crap man that wasn’t the best ending! though i think what the chairman gf was trying to say was that her son was dead and that she want to die to go see him. and no one really died i mean i though shinn should have he was going to kill anthor on of his GF!!!!!!!!!!
it does set up the next gundam serious well
I FREAKIN’ LOVED GSD… but the endind was sh*t. i think all da fans r pissed because they love it too but dissapointed by the end. its was predictible, the fights were horrible, and the plot just totally got messed up. i loved this series but the ending should have been way better, since it was such a great series.
Athuran sure had fun kicking his way to victory.But still if only the battle with Rey and Shinn was a little more challenging,it might have been a little more fun to watch.Athuran and Kira had more problem with the 3 extended from seed then with Rey and Shinn.
And wonder why Kira had to go into Gils fortress and confront him instead of destroying it with Gil in it.
I was guessing the ending was going to be rushed, didn’t think it would be that rushed…both Kira and Athrun had a (very) easy time against Dentiny/Legend and the ending leaves behind way too many questions left unanswered. There better be a movie (or OVA/Episode) for this…so, overall, I agree that this was a “big” disappointment.
Please someone tell me what the hell happened? Is Shinn dead or is he so demoralized he can’t pilot a mobile suit again because Kira kicked his ass so bad?-
This GSD blows, I’ve watched it since Gundam SEED and its way better than GSD. The ending just makes no sense what so ever. Anyway, BIG BIG nono there.
they should of explained more on what will happen to the characters, I guess they left it open so that they could make more money. $$$$
well from wat i know is that there is a OVA of 40 mins for GSD and it will be out soon i think … but all i know is that the GSD was abt the same as GSEED for the ending …
Looks like they are rushing to end at episode 50.
Ending really sux.. Fighting scene quite messy too..
I’d like to see Cagalli and Athrun been together actually (eg getting married). Is it just me but most gundam series always leave the main female and male characters alone, never see them get together in the end. e.g. SEED SEED DESTINY and Wing too!!!
GSD started to disappoint me pretty soon in the series. Partly because the ridiculous amount of clip-episodes in it. I watched the entire thing. And it really is ‘so-so’ compared to Gundam Seed. Thing that mind-boggled me was, they actually filled up with the ‘OMG Meer got killed’-episodes to rush the end… They had the time to not rush the ending… but they crammed in a few fillers, they crammed in a couple of pointless episodes, so they still got their rushed ending.
I never liked Shin… he was WAY too stupid. That alone made a little part good in the ending… Athrun totally OWNING Shinn, and beating the Destiny to a crap. God, I loved that, was way too short. Only one thing… I had the feeling from almost episode 30 or something that Athrun WAS going to own Shinn on the end… And I was right…
I hope they’ll make a nice 5 minute extra ep like they did with Seed, and just get over with it. Personally, I DON’T NEED A NEW SEED! I’d rather have a totally new universe, or a new series in the Universal Century (the original Gundam was set in this world). And preferrably with mobile suits that don’t carry 423 weapons, but have a somewhat realistic armament. (I’ve also seen too many DRAGOON’s).
Note to other people: Shinn didn’t die, he ended up crying in Lunamaria’s arms… Geesh… pathetic guy… he could’ve at least apologised to Luna.
Though I loved the series, I must admit the ending was a bit of an anti-climax. The did rush it way too much and the fights were totally “unreal” … both Shinn
and Rey had more potential than this IMO and also, the gundam from mwu looked
as if it was invincible with deflecting everything …
To all the Shinn haters, I’m sorry but I don’t really understand it, sure Shinn
has a difficult character (not too surprisingly taking into account all the
tragedies he went through, time and time again.) Laughing with Shinn’s crying
is also uncalled for since there is no other character in the series that has
cried as much as Kira did in SEED. “Hating” Shinn because he destroys/kill more? is also uncalled for because there is no other character that has as many deaths/blood on his hands as Kira has (wanted or unwanted … same result)
Kira has had a rough “history” but all in all, totally uncomparable with Shinn’s most ppl Shinn cared for have died even when Shinn tried to protect them, while Kira never had such tragedies …
I’m gonna stop trying to give more arguments because although I still have plenty of them I just know nobody will even want to read them since most of the ppl just hated Shinn because he had more screen time at the beginning of the series then Kira or Lacus had, and no matter how sound my arguments might be they will not be read or understood so I won’t bother.
I just wanted to type a little in defence for the Shinn character, wich I liked alot (no I don’t hate the Kira character … for the record)
/me respects other ppls oppinion and hopes others will have the same curtousy
u stink , shinn sucks he’s just a childish little guy with no respect for no one , but seriously what a crappy ending ? kira didnt even get to kick shin’s butt , and simply it was too rushed..it sucked big time this ending..better have a good OVA.
Haro,
Yeah I agree that the last few eps towards the end had the rushed feeling to it. Leaves a lot of questions hopefully to be answered in nthe OVA: who is Talia’s son, will Lacus/ Kira and Athrun/ Caguli have their wedding, what is Shinn going to do next, will Luna meet up with her sister…and more.
Right now Bandai’s 2006 schedule is full so its possible 2007 a new season could begin again.
To be honest, I would prefer a new world instead of stucking in the Cosmic Era. Bandai is running out of ideas of wot to do with the characters, so it might be better for them to abandon SEED and Destiny now and start again. I don’t mind if they continue with C.E if Destiny was good but IT IS NOT.
>>>>>>To add insult to injury, it was Rey that finally saw the light at the end, while Shinn remained faithfully idiotic.
You are a friggen idiot. Rey changing sides was a plot device so that Jesus Yamato would not soil his pure and holy hands. It was by far the stupidest thing I’ve seen. The sheer amount of Zaft soldiers betraying their country is utterly absurd. Asuran (who should have been executed a while ago for betraying Zaft), Yzak, Dearka (both of which had very little reason to jump ship AGAIN, but did so anyway, beause they are supposed to be “good guys” now), and now Rey who jumped ship because the writers are completely retarded.
This show appeals to children who know nothing about anything. GSD makes Power Rangers look like Shakespere.
did anybody notice that their ears bled when ever someone cried in GSD? geez it sounded like a horse with rabies
yes i love gundam seed destiny as well… the ending kind of dissapointed me because we never knows what happens is there another bad guy…. i mean what happened to the relationship with asrun and cagalli,luna maria and shin and kira and lacus they never show that come on there has to be an ova for this at least like seed when they had that 4 min clip where they showed what happened after the battle
“Most ppl Shinn cared for have died even when Shinn tried to protect them, while Kira never had such tragedies.”
Well that’s not true. Kire lost one of his best friend when he fought Athuran.Athuran killed him.And the litte girl he meet got killed by izaku when kira tried to protect her.Not to mention Frey who was killed by Kruse.Kire failed to protect her to.
Nosferatu I think you should watch seed before you make that comment.
shut up Nosferatu basically the only thing shin lost was his family and stella its nothing compared to what kira had to go through… he was genetically created as the ultimate coordinator he already had a heavy burden in his hands…. just like what nobody said kira lost toru,frey, and that little girl who gave him the flower… Nosferatu it seems that your so in love with shin u forgot what happened in the whole gundam seed series!
you know, telling Nosteratu to shut up is very rude. though i also disagree with their comments about how kira never had as many tragedies as shinn, people still have a right to their own opinions.
Sorry but Kira sufferred more than any other character in GSEED, includind Shinn. Anyway does any know around what time this OVA is suppose to come out?
From what I’ve seen on the net it will be out on Feb. 24, 2006.Still a long wait.And it better be worth it.
I don’t think the OVA will be worth watching, but I will watch just in case it is good. Archangel and Eternal are by far the strongest ships as well as the best commanded captains. Not to mention their superior mobile suit. I don’t see anyone can stop them EVER.
destiny was a disappointment…shinn/rey didnt put up a desent fight…pitiful and after all that studyin…i hope eternity have a different plot…no more masked characters and hi-jacks…change it up bandai
ok now..for 1 thing i thinkg that the ending was waaay fcuked up. 2 freakin ships and a handfull of orb battleships agaigst ZAFT? thats B.S!..the E.A got owned by Zaft most of the time in space battles..archangel and eternal and like what 3 or 4 tops Orb ships fighting the 100′s of zaft battleships?..i thing that in the eternity eps..if there are any..the main characters should stay..and this time..have a real war! and tell us how its going!not random battles! but actually show campains ..(i.e-like in band of brothers)..kira and or athrun and Mwu should lead sum kind of units under their command..fightingh whoever..but Bandai! please for the sake of Rambo! stop making them look invincible!…there not..for all you retarted pple out there!…and stop with all the feeelings and emotion!..omg..its just confusing…kira and athrun are like 40 yr old women on there periods…make them a bit more masculine..will you bandai?..the ultimate coordinater should pack a bit more manlyness..
haha..
GSD i also enjoyed watching, especially getting 43 episodes non stop, that was really fun getting, sure the ending was dissapointing i have to admit, but then again as people say that this leaves lots of room for a third series, and based on what i have read in wikpedia encyclopedia site, they say that the ova”will give a final conclusion to this 50 episode series”, there is a great chance for a satisfying ending with the show, its like have 2 extra episodes to watch, but i am really hoping that the ova gives it the rightfull conclusion to the show, and i dont really want another series for this show, i think they should just go back to the UC unvierse and make some other series based on that universe, but overall i can say that Gsd was a enjoyable to watch.
What would be the next Gundam Seed Anime
Gundam Seed DD?
Gundam Seed Astray (^.^)
Gundam Seed Astray Destiny (^.^)
Gundam Seed: Ehhh Someone’s Counter Attack??
Shinns counter attack
Well right now i have noticed that the ratings for the show has gone up,i guess everyone is done giving the series its bad rates, now the people who liked the series are giveing it its good ratings.
Well I kinda liked the series and hope for a sequal, I mean the last episode coulda been better, cramming it all into a 30 min time block really didn’t fly too well, It was completely rushed…and what about Shinn..he’s still a jerk and didn’t learn his lesson…I hope he’s the villian in the next season if there is one.Overall I still liked the season. Still a great series in my mind..
What grinds my gears is that the Destiny Gundam didn’t turn out to be anything special after all. I thought that it was going to have some critical tie-in to the “Dessstiny Plan”, but in the end Gilbert was just using him to ward off the angry mob
Some of you would like to see a new series of Gundam outside the SEED universe. For a few years now (and after watching an official unsubbed videotape) I’ve been hoping that they would go back to Universal Century and finish the Gundam F91 series properly. This has been one of my favorite mobile suit designs for years, maybe my all around favorite. The movie was so in your face that a series should have come of it instead of just a manga stint.
I like that MS igLoo is returning to UC territory, albeit from the Zeon side of things. But still welcome. Maybe there will be more…
u2jedi
did anyone notice all those destiny plan system 48, in the dark chamber where it lights up then saying Destiny Plan activate sort of thing. Where did that go in the end? I reckon the OVA will be based on that. Destiny Plan was not stopped completely, and Destiny Gundam is going to hav its real function then.
I thought all those was on the durandulls space fortress.So I think it’s destroyed.
A funny thing.WHen I was watching GDS episode one ,When sting stole chaos,the operating system was suppose to be Generation Unrestricted Network Drive Assault Module.
But it said Generation Unrestricted Nuclear Drive Assault Module instead.Is it like that for everybody else?
Ok, very interesting chats, ill give my own opinion
The very first episode had already screwed my GSD gears up, 3 ppl hijack, go back to a mask man, one “new” movile comes along while the hijacked ones have no idea wut it is, im talkin about impulse btw. very very first episode, i kinda hated GSD for that, easily repetitive.
as it went along, there is a mother ship, minerva with a crew with a powerful ms and some minor ms, impulse, kinda like archangel, strike.
im sure u guys can think of a lot more, but those 2 really gave GSD a big dent in my gundam book.
ok lets see, Shinn… well ok, first he goes around and complaining about everything, blah blah blah, then he gets cocky and scolds at athrun for using his emotions, like during the part where impulse rapes freedom. Dude i was like, uhh hello? Shinn? wut wus it with stellar? with the sister? and his whole fuking life? dude he is al about emotions man, i mean, take a look at his seed, did u guys notice that it only breaks out when he is angry? if ind that kinda disturbing…
ANd man, i dont even know where to start about the ending. you could tell though, by the last few episodes, the war dint even start yet unitl 49, obviously theres no way everything can be explained and fought in 1 episode.
The one on one fighting scenes sucked, compared to seed, at least there were a lot of them, like yzak, dearka and nicole.
basically, i the story in the beginning is alrite, builds up because of all the emotions and ambition, but it just dies out. Seed is a lot better.
The only good shit about GSD is the ms and gundams, damn! they are just waaaaay to kewl, i mean srsly, chcek out strike freedom, the new justice, akatsuki, legend. i wont say destiny cuz i personally think its just a butterfly with a sword. i mean wut the hell he only has like uwt, 4 moves? but damn, i wish for more 1 v 1 fighitng, more intense too. I agree, Akatsuki is way to powerful, but shit man, Mwu La Flagga!!!!! i was so happy to find him alive, cz i realli hated it when he died at the end of seed. and all that like, recreating the same scene without Mwu dying this time was realy touching XD
it would be nice for an OVA, cuz i want to see wut happens. and man, fuk shinn, fuk luna too, shes stupid enough to get back with him even when SHinn almost killed her. but o well.
yeah well, thats bascially wut i think, GSD = crappy asssss story, crazy ms and gundams (goufs and ginns were good too, too bad yzak and dearka dint have their old ones) GS = nice story, pretty kewl ms and gundams.
on the last note, fuk the ending, no offense to the creators, good job on the mechs though XD
Fatblob
i thinked luna as a more of a mother figure to shinn for some reason, then shinns ugly gf, and by the way i find it quite ugly that luna is one year older than shinn. Cagalli is older than athrun i know that, but that is in months which is something i can tolerate,same goes for kira and lacus, but i dont like people haveing relation ships when they are already 1 year older than the male character, or even 2 years obviously, but it also annoyed me with luna and shinn that luna just acts like a mother to shinn.
Does anyone know if they are going to create a third Gundam SEED series? I really hope they don’t, they should just end everything with some explanation in the OVA. I didn’t know Cagalli is older than Athrun, and Lacus is older than Kira. It was a shock when I found out. Let’s hope they put the character together in the OVA, not putting them all over the place (Relena and Heero in WING).
i heard that there making another 2 gundam seeds called gundam seed msv and gundam seed astray
those two by the person is in comics aren’t they?
well i thought msv and astray were the same thing.. and btw i think its already out, not sure about anime, but ive seen clips of astray red frame and astray blue frame, so im pretty sure there should be or will be a anime for it too
Fatblob
I can only say this: IT SUCKS! GS is way better than this. And, I thought Shinn was the main char of this stupid crap?! So why did the oh-so-perfect coordinator Yamato had to be the ending-saviour… maybe fukuda has a crush on kira… They better make the third series the best or else i’ll really give fukuda a piece of my mind.
Things I can’t wait to see in a third series:
1) New characters billed as leads/stars only to have their screentime completely taken over by Kira
2) More dorky masks and clones
3) Gaia getting kicked while in dog form
Why do people rag on Kira? Don’t hate the playa, hate the game!
Well… what to say… ooh yeah this is all fillers ep. FAULT! why? cuz those 2 fills eps could have been a lot of plot and more of kira/lacus kissing action(btw. never seen them actually kissing…weird…) LOL forget the last. haha but rlly we demand a NICE OVA WITH A GOOD END (and kira having some mouth action with lacus muehehe)
I really believe that GSD ———sucks——— bigtime. It just disappointed me so much. I’m giving it 1.5/5. Most of the episodes were Recaps….. Hello???? Anybody out there from the GSD writer??? This is one lame Gundam to watch, why bother showing all the recaps when we know that already happened. And if they’re planning for a third series… i think it will be the recaps of GS and GSD. CRAP!!! What a waste of time watching this… The only thing I like in here is How Powerful “Freedom” Has Become… The ULTIMATE GUNDAM> hehehe
let’s not even bother witht the third series, just let them get on with the OVA. I agree with “Abel Nightroad” that we should see more scenes of Kira and Lacus. They didn’t get any time together at all in front of the viewers. We knew they spent two years living together but so? we didn’t see any part of that!!! Also Cagalli is my favourite character, I know she’s retarded at piloting mobile suit, but she’s a lot better than even most of the coordinators. Seen on some random site saying her occupation is “runnaway president of Orb” and marital state “Runnaway bride and now widow”. That was just rediculous. She was forced to go away and she never liked that purple hair man wotever his name is. Hope Athrun will go out with her again instead of that Meyrin Hawke
dont worry meyring hawk will never happen with athrun, since meyrin and athrun did not even have a serious convo on anything, but athrun telling her that im sorry that i got you involved.
Now come to think of it. Two of three cagalli’s rivals are knocked out of the competition. I would think Cagalli is more likely to win. Meer died, Lunamaria in love with Shinn. Right, Cagalli is wealthier, more powerful (piloting, her country, dertermination). Also their time together had been longer. If u think about it Athrun’s got such a “rich” tast, that he got himself rich girlfriends without knowing who they are (daughter of PLANT Chairman Lacus, Princess of Orb Cagalli) Why would he find Meyrin Hawk worth looking at.
Yea, I was rather disappointed with the series in general….they are saying a sequel will follow destiny, to make the seed series a trilogy. Whether a 3rd installment can help save face, I do not know. Though I do want to know the same of the song at the beginning of ep 50 as it opens with archangel and eternity heading towards messiah….anyone know?
Sorry, I don’t know the name of the song. I doubt the 3rd installment will be better than the second. In the first one, archangel and eternal new to the world and they saved the world. Second one, they became heroes, and near enough to invincible. The third one, probably every1 is going to pray them as some kind of god by the end of it.
and I think we should hav at least 61 comments in total. Because episode 1 had 60 comments, we’ve got to hav more comments at the end than the beginning.
NO! How dare you pair up Lacus and Athrun again! CAGALLI AND ATHRUN!
but u hafta admit, some parts of seed destiny are very emotional lol, like the part where akatsuki (Mwu) deflects the tanhuesar, but survives. lol i really loved that part. and like the whole scene of strike freedom’s first debut, that was awesome man.
Fatblob
I can’t wait to see a masked character with long red hair only to find out that Flay hath returned from beyond the grave and now is the chairwoman of ZAFT (*gasp* but shes a natural) HAHA…. *shakes head* I don’t know about the third series… I love gundam seed… and gundam seed destiny 9will hopefully redeem itself with the OVA) All i want…. is a little Cagalli x Athrun action. At LEAST fix what they tore apart and get back together… that is pretty much the extent of what I want. Something lovely like Shinn getting blown up would just be the icing on my pretty little cake ^_^ I don’t know If I can survive till februrary for my AsuCaga addiction…
what final light?that final light you mentioned is crap and kira sucks
I don’t think all those rumours about a third serie of Seed is true. I agree with Orchidzala that I don’t want a Natural chairwoman of ZAFT, such as the spirit of Fllay. My favourite character is Cagalli, I hoped that she will get Kira at the beginning of Seed but is no longer possible now then it will be great to see something from Athrun and her. A wedding will be nice, but kids running around them will be even better. I can’t imagine Cagalli been a mother. LOL. I was hoping they would make a film like the Endless Waltz for Gundam Wing instead of an OVA
err.. isn’t Gundam Wing: EW an ova for GW? ^_~? anyway the ending IS obviously rushed since everything happened so fast the next thing you know the superweapons had blown up and chairman Dullindal is shot. They should’ve just made another extra episode (ep. 51) kinda like the episode count for Full Metal Alchemist. Kira had more tragic experiences than Shinn obviously (refer to SEED episodes). Err.. there are gundam kits of GSD MSV sold in stores and hobby shops here in the Philippines even before the GSD Series ended so I doubt that would be the title for the next season, btw what is GSD MSV anyway? ^_~? (i think it’s a manga for GSD, kinda like Blind Target for Gundam Wing)
I’ve heard that there may not even be an OVA for GSD from what some websites said.
Gah! where did they say there won’t be an OVA for GSD?? That would be terrible to end it like they did and just… leave it at that. GAH! Damn the internet! I wish they would just hurry and make some kind of official statement… you know?
WTF r ALL u PPL saying??!! Kira is Definitley Better than that MDRFCKer Shinn. He did not go insane with his tradgedies while shinn needs a 1-way Tcket to the Mental institution for his craziness. I Also lyk that Athrun/Cagalli pair its because they r so sweet 2gether.
The ending was a disappointment. Too may loose ends, and a completely rushed feel to boot. It was both a disappointment…and a relief that the series finally ended I guess. The way Kira turned Rey around was utterly ridiculous that I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, and I’ve got nothing to say about Athrun defeating Shinn and Lunamaria so easily. It’s as though Clyne Faction is invincible, which makes the whole thing leave a bad aftertaste in my thoughts….Good action, but sadly, terrible character development and plot.
She had ssed eyes back at seed too.Episode 48 or 49 i think.
I’ve got a question. What does Lacus’s SEED do? She went into SEED mode once in Seed and once in Destiny. But neither showed what her seed mode does !!!
maybe it gives her powers to order people around?
I don’t really think so. It’s 1.) Either just another stupid plot device or 2.) It makes her mind clear, that’s all there is to it. Whether or not she can order people around should be within her already, since SEED mode doesn’t give anyone special or extra abilities.
i was so bumed that Cagalli and athrun didn’t get married. But i heard that there will be Gundam seed Eternity. I went to Japan and its already out on television. And guess what kira and lacus got married first. Then Cagalli and athrun. Mirr and dearka got married at PLANTS.
Say what? I heard that there was only going to be a oav.
hahaha claire your obviously making that up:P Don’t confuse people.
i was so bumed that Cagalli and athrun didn’t get married. But i heard that there will be Gundam seed Eternity. I went to Japan and its already out on television. And guess what kira and lacus got married first. Then Cagalli and athrun. Mirr and dearka got married at PLANTS.
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Ah yes… And they had a baby Pig… Wait…
I’m guessing Shinn will go Berserk and Become the baddy in Seed Eternity. I hope Cagali Dies… Simply because she’s been a total “bitch” to Asuran throughout the series. Shinn was pathetic. The Revival of Muu Fraga was a sad sad way of butchering his character. Rey was a Clone of Kruze? Seriously… And you know, My dog could write a better plot than this..
Eternity had better redeam this crappy excuse for a series. =/
As most of you I have been deeply disappointed with GSD’s ending, as Shinn is still displayed as a weak character mentally, yet the encounter with Stellar towards the end left me thinking. I wanted to clarify Shinn’s collapse as he sees the Messiah fall to its firery death. I saw that scene like 4 times till I realized why he began to feel sorrow. Seems that he saw everything he believed in burst into flames, and towards the end he sees that his feel for vengence brought him nothing. Luna see this and holds him, regardless (great chick dude)of his actions (such as he atking her!!! O.o). I thought Rey “seeing” the light was completely stupid, as he was one who followed the Chairman the most!! Shinn was having doubts in the end, but we all gotta remember, this guy is 16… cmon, most of teenagers would pick up our mobile suits (if they existed) and take revenge (or try) against those who you believe killed your family and possibly destroying others as well. With age comes wisdom, as also through experience which I believe was the way Shinn learned that vengence is not the answer. Even still, GSD ending was rathher crappy, cut & paste fight scenes, obvious victors, and not enough people dead. Wouldn’t of been a damn twist if the Minerva shot down the Archangel or the Eternal, or if the Minerva and the Archangel blew themselves up? Cmon, this could of been damn good…
Regardless of what anyone says, Shinn Asuka is my favorite character, agressive, vengence seeker… basically the average teenager
P.S. Destiny shoulda had another anti ship sword than a long range beam rifle.. seriously… you know that shit sucks!! But even so… Destiny looks badass.
-Peace
Yea, amen to what Fer said
I don’t think Destiny should have another anti ship sword, I think it should have one or two normal beam swords, so its enemies can’t cut it in half like the anti ship swords. Shinn had his Anti Ship broken twice as far as I know by Athrun.
i want to ask that did any more people die in the series.Like kira or the other?
OMG! I just finished watching the whole GSD series, are they making a new series? cuz honestly once again the ending is really unclear, only battles (not that im complaining, but they dont even show the result) there is still lots of mysteries left, like why rey killed the chairman gil dullindal instead of kira, wen he said “but his future is…!”, and also about why that captain gladys said to kira to tell captain ramius “we have a son, please meet with him one day…” what does this all mean?! okay asides from that im okay with the plot and the new characters, even athrun’s harem, it is possible, seeing as cagalli (not that i hate/like her, i just watch and observe in general) it does make sense y they broke up in the end (i think they did, seeing as cagalli stoped wearing the ring, and told meyrin to take care of athrun) but to be honest i do like meyrin and athrun to be together, seeing as meer died(thank god, shes nothing but a fake, and only like athrun cuz of him being a hero) same goes for lunamaria, who is like flay, switched from flirting to athrun then to shin (i honestly think she doesnt love athrun, only liked him cuz he was a hero among them, seeing as wen she heard athrun chose meyrin, she got so pissed in the battle and decides the fight athrun, the way she said is like y did u take her, despite the fact she knows meyrin was the one who helped and stayed with athrun, i honestly think shes just jealous) and oh back to cagalli, i think that in reality or in similar to, u would understand y they would break up, seeing as cagalli is the daughter of the previous leader of orb, and she has a very great deal of responsibility for her nation, she would chose her responsibility than her love for athrun(cagali fans dont hate me, this is just a fact), that was y she was so pised wen kira kidnaped her, and says taht she had decided. Even so, in the early episodes athrun doesnt seem happy with cagalli, cuz of the fact that his new identity “Alex Denon” as her bodyguard only makes him like lackey, and of course any guy with a famous record and highly respected position downgraded to someone that “Yuna/Jona” just orders him around, athrun never liked this, thats one of the reasons he went back to zaft, seeing as his helpless in orb, no one knows him and his reputation. Sory im going way off topic, but just to sum up, its just cagalli and meyrin left thats for a fact, although it seems meyrin has a higher favor in the end, seeing as cagalli knows how much meyrin cares for athrun, and she cried probably of the fact that this is true, not cuz she cant just come with them in space, but even if she was there, she could never really care for him, because of her responsibilities, that is y she accepted meyrin, besides from the other girls (meer and lunamaria, meyrin is the more likely heroine and partner of the hero, cuz she doesnt have crazy issues like meer who is a identity theft, and lunamaria the “flay” identity)
K now back to my only and one only thing that i despise, hate, vex, angry, mad, and all bad adjectives and words to describe this useless aspect and factor that greatly affects the series. Its the stupid main character SHIN! OMG! Why the hell did they make this guy the freakin main character!!! In the beginning he was useless and annoying up to the end. (Im sory for those shin fans out there, hate me if u want, but im sure more pplz hate this guy) I mean honestly wtf is his purpose in the freakin series! I thought he was like the “hero who is actually the enemy, like Rey, and like accidentally contains the seed, as like one of the rejects in making the ultimate coordinator: Kira Yamato” but that i understand, however they show him in opening and ending songs like he was the freaking hero!!! I Mean Come On! Hes useless, he does nothing but goes berserk, and kills everyone, and most of all he is so freaking annoying and arrogant! I especially loved those 2 or 3 episodes were athrun insults, slaps, and then punches him !!!! He got wat he deserved! Esp wen athrun wipes him out like he was nothing using the infinite justice, beating the crap out of destiny, another gay gundam “butterfly wings” honestly i was overjoyed wen justice beat the crap out of it. Although i was disappointed of teh fact taht he survived >:(, i was hoping athrun or kira kills him, cuz he deserves to die, not live, he couldnt understand anything. I mean i know some ppl relates him to kira, seeing as kira was like shinn wen he was protecting the archangel, kira beeing berserk and killing everyone, whoever the really big and main difference was kira doesnt want to fight, he is obliged to fight for his frnds, and he never wants to kill anyone despite of all his power and abilities. However on the other hand, Shinn only fights for himself, his own freaking pathetic revenge, where all he blamed his Cagali and her father, and ORB, man hes freaking annoying! And wat pisses me off is that he contains the dam seed! i was like What the hell?! only kira, athrun, and cagalli has them. Kira seeing as he is the ultimate coordinator, athrun who was base similar to kira’s way since his father Patrick Zala wanted his son to be a great soldier as well, so athrun and kira are the only ones who contains the seeds, cagalli only unleased her seed once in the last ep of seed, seeing as in theory she contains some of the seed cuz she does have recessive genes of the parents, and might contain the genetical trait of the seed. So how does a gay and annoying guy like shinn has it?!!!! I cant even say how much more reasons how shinn sucks and how he ruins and brings down the series, however i can honestly say he would make an awesome villain, but not a frikin main character from the start, it ruins the show, making ppl believe that he is the hero, despite the fact taht he isnt, even till the end. So if they are making a new Gundam Seed series, they better not put that gay guy Shinn in there, not unless he DIES! now that would be amazing, probably makes more ppl happier to watch the show, cuz we all have to admit that he pisses us off, esp wen he disses athrun.
Well, I finally got to see the final phase. And well, you may think I´m crazy but I think it´s not so bad, compared to the rest of the nonsense they made from 1 to 49 (argh!). And now it´s time for the so-much-expected contest! Here go the nominees…
‘BEST? CHARACTER’
#1: Shinn I-forgot-to-take-my-medication Asuka. When we thought that Fllay Allster was the biggest pain in the ass, the came up with this guy. Is he supposed to be the main character?? oh… WTF…
#2: Extended-but-retarded Stellar. For being able to destroy a city while uttering no more than 3 words. And BTW… it´s kinda tragic when she dies, but the other 2 extended are happily killed. There must be a difference, but I can´t see it though…
#3: Neo la-Fllaga-la-Mwu-la-Klueze. For returning from his grave, just to wear the black version of Raww´s mask. BTW… why is he wearing a mask, anyway? It seems to be the trendiest thing now… I think I´m gonna get one for Christmas Eve.
‘BEST? GUNDAM’
#1: Fake-Lacus´ pinky thing. Which I do not dare to call “Gundam”.
#2: Cagalli´s golden stuff. Her father speaks from the word of the Dead, just to give her that kinda kitsch thing. It could be worse… well, yes. It could also be covered with diamonds or something like that.
#3: Shinn´s magical butterfly. Or any other Gundam with 26-meters cannon. This is the clearest example of how good it is to keep things simple.
‘MOST OBVIOUS PLAGIARISM’
#1: The beginning. Switch the words “ZAFT” and “Earth Forces” and… surprise! The beginning of Gundam Seed turns into the beginning of GS Destiny. Even the bad guy with the mask. And the female captain. And the stolen Gundams. OMG…
#2: The end. Is it GS Destiny or Star Wars? When Kira enters the Chairman´s room, I thought he was going to say: “Kira… I´m your father!” Even the throne is identical to the Emperor´s… For God´s Sake!
#3: The rest of the phases. Obviously copied from Gundam Seed.
‘MOST REPEATED SCENE’
#1: Shinn´s family death. I´ve seen that blown-away hand like 200000000 times.
#2: Stellar´s death. It seems that Shinn is happy to remember tragedies.
#3: The on-air building-up of the Impulse. Yes, when I close my eyes I see those goddam crappy Gundam parts getting together like a puzzle.
Time to vote!
PS: And yes, I can´t wait to see the OVA. It just can´t be worse.
I like these choices, and I like polls, so here’s my choices:
== Best Character ==
Mwu-La-Kruz: Shinn and Stellar are insanely fun to joke about, but did anyone actually like either of them? Every season, there is one overachiever character that is slated to die/come back/don a mask for like 15 “different” characters, and that kind of… er, versatility needs to be recognized.
== Best Gundam ==
Cagalli’s Pimped Out Gundam: They had to actually reuse GS scenes because so much of the budget money went towards this gaudy monstrosity. I’m sad the Gaia wasn’t on the list, cause that is my personal favorite. You kicked my dog!
== Most Obvious Plagarism ==
The End: because by this point everyone was already pissed off about all the flashback episodes and re-used scenes that the plagarism stuck out that much more. Once Lunamaria started ogling Shinn, the show really just started going downhill.
== Most Repeated Scene ==
Building Impulse out of Legos: Shinn’s family death comes at boring intervals, so is easily skipped. Stellar’s death has awesome background music. However, I never want to miss part of a rehashed fight scene, so I always have to watch that piece of garbage Gundam get slowly assembled. And then they handed it down to Lunamaria and it lived on as a refurbished mech!!!
Can’t wait for the OVA. I hold out hope that Lacus was secretly the evil mastermind behind all of this. When is another light-hearted shopping episode (this time with less shooting, please) coming?
You are right. The Gaia should also be included, but I missed it among all the crap. Gaia was fantastic, walking on water like Jesus, with its burning moustaches (Gaia, not Jesus). Although we have to admit that the Desert Tiger´s Vacoo (whatever you write it) from Gundam Seed was not much better (even Gundam Seed has also a few things we can make fun of… but just a few!)
Best char -> Stella, too bad she died, i wanted to see more of CS-god-knife-skills
Best Gundam -> c’mon, kudos should go to the grunt models that serve the purpose of making Kira look uber
Plagarism -> ending, Star Wars is nice tho..
Repeated scene -> Lego scene, gosh I hate the damned legos, especially when they’ve got to launch off all the legos one by one, then connect them using some infra-red technology WTF??
as for comments on the show overall,
1) soundtrack/music: Reason pwned imo, i didn’t want Stella to die so soon, but the background music was worth (her) dying for!; generally, in-show background music too, but i don’t know when it the mismatched and unconnected starting songs began, those were horrible
2) plot: OK until some point in time, it started to suck for me when I was half-hoping they would determinedly finish off Shinn’s protagonist role, but apparently they left it half-hanging with Kira Gundamless for a few episodes, and took this period of time, meanwhile to ruin it for me totally: Luna/Shinn, unpowered EA, grunt Destroy models, orgasmic-dying-horse-crying, Athrun still being pwned and a crybaby, too many grunts, Lacus-space-camping — i thought i remembered her promising to be back soon or something?, too much spamming of the portable deflector shields (c’mon it’s gay, it was still original when the MA was first introduced, but it got underpowered and too overused when everyone started using em)
3) graphics: c’mon the Strike Freedom should be more rigged and pimped than that, at least give it uber-fast-firing-Tannhauser-Meteor-Dragoons and a more decent paintjob; I liked the showy wings on Destiny, the repetion of scenes is still OK given the budget, but it’s unforgiveable on the recall episodes where they leech into the original SEED scenes excessively, there should be less recall episodes
4) fighting: this sucked c’mon!!! (1) Kira vs Shinn: how the heck did the Impulse or Kira’s cockpit survive a freaking nuclear explosion? that’s the stuff it takes to blow up 1 plant and the pwnage-superweapon in the original SEED series what the heck?!? it’s unfair, at least make it a draw between Kira and Shinn, and Kira was using grunt-tactics against Shinn, bad way to make room for the Strike Freedom by having the Freedom get grunt-pwned by Shinn. i would rather Kira tell Lacus to pimp-his-ride in the most abrupt style than have Kira lose to Shinn in grunt-style. even at the very least, Kira could’ve pulled off a traditional Athrun-suicide on Shinn with his skills (if he could’ve thought of letting the nuclear reactor blow up in the face of an opponent, he probably didn’t think of sparing his life, so there’s no excuse not to Athrun-suicide on Shinn) it’s also totally impossible that Kira can just allow the Freedom to free fall onto the mountain while the Impulse undergoes the lego process freely. i don’t think Shinn disabled his railguns and beam cannons so i guess he just grunts “this guy…” “kmpfhmm” like a grunt and get pwned as though he’s off-form like a noob? the fight is totally rigged.
5) characters: Cagalli and Athrun sucked for around 40 episodes and didn’t really get any better, Shinn’s character development was great IMO (but that doesn’t mean i like him), Rey could have had more development, but i still liked how he scored Dark Side points using classic means, other chars were generally OK, but as the bottom-line, the most important thing is…
I HAD NOT ENOUGH OF KIRA-IS-GOD SCENES!!!!! screw it!!!! c’mon!!!
Actually there is a very simple explanation for why Kira did not die in the first battle against Shinn. It also explains how Kira lost. This explanation is:
Kira was AFK.
seems like this page hasen’t godt the newest gundum seed destiny final plus.A ekstended version of episode 50.Lasting 46 min.The battle scene are longer and you get to see what happende to the main characters after the battle.It’s nice but not perfect.
He was AFK in SEED Mode. That’s gay.
Okay, wow. Did anyome watch the Final Plus thing? Watch episode 50 again (if you can stand it) and there you go. That’s it. Oh wait, I forgot the two sentences at the end that say what politically happened (but they explain nothing) and a conversation with no meaning between Athrun, Kira, and Shin with Luna and Meyrin present. Whoop de freaking doo. What in the heck happened?? Did the creators forget what an EPILOGUE is supposed to be??? An EXPLANATION!! Final Plus explained nothing and is a waste of everybody’s time.
As far as GSD goes, it was really good at the beginning. It was okay in the middle, but by the time you reached episode 50, you felt majorly jipped. Why were there like 10 recaps?? If the idiots weren’t watching the show by episode 40, then they weren’t going to watch it, meaning that everyone watching the series had already seen it and knew what was going on. Why in the world did we need all of those flashbacks??? GSD was SEED all over again. Shin was Kira’s character, the boy thrown into a war he really wanted no part of. Stellar was Flay, the girl destined to die and then appear to the “main” character during the last episode in some unconscious dream. Captain Gladys was Captain Ramius, except for the fact that she had no spine and nothing even remotely interesting about her. They both were in love with associates (Gladys being Gilbert and Ramius being Mwu). Athrun was Athrun, not really knowing what was going on at all until it was too late and being manipulated by someone in power. The show could have been saved if Cagalli, the only interesting character, had been in it more and had a bigger role and had been the person she was in Seed- the only one who ever spoke her mind. What happened to her character? What made her such a whimp all of a sudden?
Here’s an idea– try using an ORIGINAL idea for the next show. And, question: Why can’t Mwu, Kira, or Athrun die?? Is that against some divine law??? And what happened between Athrun and Cagalli?? Why can’t gundam shows have actual ENDINGS???
Here is what should happen in Gundam Seed Eternity-
1. Kira and Lacus will die right off the bat, followed by Meyrin, Luna, and Shin.
2. Athrun and Cagalli get married or broken up, they just need to figure out which.
3. …. Wait a minute, that’s pretty much all I wanted to happen….
Overall, I think the creators of GSD forgot how to write a show that people will actually want to watch. Better luck next time.
The Cagalli and Athrun relationship is rediculous in the Final Plus. Before the Archangel set off to space. Cagalli stands in front of Athrun and he goes and hugged her she accepted his hug. End of the Final Plus, Cagalli walking on her own(well and the people from Orb Government) and Meyrin decided to be with Athrun instead of her sister and Shinn. End of story, just what exactly is going to happen ?!!!
I just like seeing gundams shoot the heck out of each other. My favorite gundam is Strike Freedom.
i just figured out msv stood for mobile suit variations and that theres an anime series on gundam seed msv and gundam seed deestiny msv but i dont have a clue when they come out
msv mainly has the characters ehind the scenes like miguel who dies at the beginning of hundam seed
NOTE: Might be many spoilers ahead.
This is for the people who actual watch Gundam for the characters, and not for overused, recycled, and ultamitely completely pointless flashy battle animations. To be honest, the battles have a flashes and very little actual fighting IMO.
Shinn, while not a likeable character, is by far one of the best (Note that “Best” character and “Favorite” character are two completely different things.) ones Fukuda has churned out. Or at least, he would have been-
“To add insult to injury, it was Rey that finally saw the light at the end, while Shinn remained faithfully idiotic.”
Completely agreed with. Even from the first episode, this series showed a lot of promise. We have a main character that can actually go somewhere, as opposed to an overly cliched idea (“Ultamite Coordinator”? Please.). They start off with the death of Shinn’s loving parents and sister, and although we don’t like the characters a lot because we just met them 2 minutes ago, we instantly see the horror of war: A guy who just lost his entire family in an instant. The gore and such emphasize this fact. So now, we have a really good basis for a character: A normal guy who is just plain pissed off at the Freedom Gundam for the death of his family.
Now, people who said Shinn is childish is completely right: That was, at least in my opinion, the point of his character. From what I expected, he was going to grow over the series to see that his family’s death, while tragic, was part of the war, and was never, ever planned by anyone, Kira of all people. He would also realize that many other people lost their family, so while his sorrow is understandable, his angst is totally unacceptable.
Of course, Fukuda (The director in case you don’t know) apparently has no grasp over HIS OWN CHARACTERS. What does he do? He switches the main character halfway through the series, because thats what the fans demanded. This is unheard of, plain and simple. Even if I DID like Kira (which I don’t), making him the main character halfway through and stealing the original main character’s spotlight…is plain stupid. Not only that, but Shinn became your normal “I always lose, but I’ll be back to annoy you more” villian. It’s inexplicable how Shinn can beat Kira in one episode and then get completely slaughtered by him (or Asuran) in the next. Also, one thing I’d like to add is that people don’t survive big fucking explosions without a scratch. Hmm, Kira is in the center of the Freedom explosion, and completely survives it? I don’t buy it. But I digress…
People who think Kira suffered more than Shinn are wrong IMO. While Kira DID see a lot more death (Which is the fault of the director, again), the people he saw die were a lot less connected to him than Shinn had to the deaths he saw. Losing your family (Your entire family, even) is a lot more painful than seeing one of your friends die or letting a child you hardly know die. And then of course, there was Stellar. Some people compare Fllay with Stellar, but I personally find Fllay to be a superior character, because she’s a lot more realistic than Stellar (Girl who loses her dad completely manipulates man-bitch into doing her dirty work compared to LOL IM GENETCALLY ENGINEERED AND I LIKE YOU FOR NO REASON SHINN), but I digress yet again…
So, what do we get in the end? Complete retardation of clip shows and/or episodes that waste time for the last 10+ episodes, switching over to a main character that has no continuing development because he was so determined to prove his own Newty-I mean, Coordinator philosophy babbling, and of course, ZERO DEVELOPMENT AND/OR GROWTH FOR THE ORIGINAL MAIN CHARACTER.
Also, as a side note for something to do with this particular episode, Shinn gets owned way too easily in the last episode. He goes into SEED mode…and still wasn’t able to beat un-SEED Asuran. Then Asuran goes into SEED and completely maims him. LAME. Also, it seems like Rey was the one the whole time who told Shinn not to listen to Asuran because he was wrong, and then he listens to Kira’s pointless babbling about life philosophy (BTW I use the word philosophy loosely in here, because it’s the same level as Gundam Wing, where they sound like they’re reading something from the sparknotes of philosophical thought) and ends up killing Dullindal. As for Talia staying with Dullindal, I also found it unconvincing, because of how poorly ALL the supposed love relationships were handled with such complete stupidity.
i just watched the last ep of gsd again and i just noticed the kira’s gundam didnt get damaged or anything. how the fuck is that possible if he got owned by shinn before?
by the way i agree with you fully symbios
and i also just noticed kira and asrun had a harder time fighting yzak and dearka
I know it is stupid to have Cagalli saving Kira on her Strike Rouge just right before the explosion of Freedom and Kira escaped with no major damage and recovered within hours basically. But at least they explained how Kira was saved. Athrun and Meyrin on the other hand survived the explosion of that GOUF without anyone saving them from the cockpit but someone to pick the cockpit up afterward. That is even less convincing than the Freedom explosion. I mean how many people can survive an explosion and then hours underwater?
hi gsd is the best show ever wach.
I agree with that jack. That ryhmes.
I think that they should add on some time to explain wat would the characters do in the future in the ending
P.S The ending suks and the fightin is so messy.I wonder Kira does not get a scratch on his Freedom.
hi please tell me who Talia Gladys son is when she tells kira to meet him???
tell me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Anyone knows whats the next series og gundam?
Gundam Seed gave me just a bit of hope for society when they made Cagalli NOT feminine and gorgeous. (You know, the exact opposite of the oh-so-adored Mary Sue Lacus Clyne. >_> She annoys me, but to avoid death, ahh, I’ll shut up about that.) Cagalli and Athrun deserve to be with one another, but to be honest. Right now, I just want them to either break them up or keep them together. CHOOSE DAMN IT. CHOOSE. Ugh.
It’d also be nice for Lacus to die, not just because I dislike her, but because it’d be great for the plot. Scratch that, Cagalli (after resolutions to Athrun and her ‘relationship’ status have been made) would make just as great a sacrificial lamb, IF, Athrun doesn’t get with Meyrin.
So, one of the fantastic four dies (Cagalli preferably as long as Athrun doesn’t go off with some harem wh0re a moment later).
Shin dies. Dear god, Shin Asuke, you need to motherf!cker jump off a building.
Luna dies. Ugh, wh0re.
And uhm, let’s see. Add a plot. There, that’s all I want out of GSE.
*chuckle*
I was bothered by the ending, but not as bothered like you guys. Though I would be delighted for a few plot changes, the thing that I wanted to see the most is Lacus meeting with the board in PLUS. That would be more interesting than AthrunxMeyrinxCagalli or Freedom Gundam. Even the laughable Splasher or Celsius.
One last thing, can we all be sensible and stop bashing too much? It’s annoying going from site to site only to be rewarded with more bashing than the last. Honestly, I am a CagallixAthrun supporter, but I welcome MeyrinxAthrun with open arms.
Stop being too harsh on the director or anyone alse. They are humans, like us. Human makes mistake, that is a fact.
Lastly, stop swearing too much. It’s annoying.
whoa, i just saw the ‘final plus’ andit is an amazingly
better ending with more explenations and runs for 46:16.
evrything is longer,the fights,the arguements,and more
flashbacks. n u get to see what actually happens after
the war. this was a better way to finish it off.
i wld like to put in my piece…tt YESH! the ending is totally disappointing! i mean…I LOVE CAGALLI TO BITS! they make her look like some wussie in this series! the directors totally suck! all those pictures of athrun and cagalli together? are they fakes or what? athrun is such a casanova! a totall flirt! man! haiz…so sad…what happened to my dear cagalli in the end? haiz…did she get her so deserved happily-ever-after? call me naive…but i hate it when animes let things hang in the air like this! sucks!
and yesh! these pple shud die…(anyone not happy? come over to pluto and settle it with me one-on-one!)
Pple that shud die:
1) Shinn Asuka (my bro was totally busted when Stellar dies and Shin was up and running with Luna in like…1 day?)
2) Meyrin Hawke (I’m sorry…you r talking to a girl who has Cagalli posters all over her cupboard…)
3) Lunamaria Hawke (I just don’t like her…She..how do you say? Makes me wanna puke.)
AND I WILL NOT WELCOME ATHRUN+MEYRIN! Ewwwwwwwww! After he gave Cagalli a ring? And after all the hopes and promises? If my boyfriend does that to me…he’ll see a murderor (me) at his door next time…
Oh! I think Cagalli is much better off with someone like….Yzak? Or Dearka? (I think Dearka’s hot…Hahaha!)
“Stop being too harsh on the director or anyone alse. They are humans, like us. Human makes mistake, that is a fact.”
I enjoy bushing the director and the writer, because it wasn’t because they made mistakes, it’s because they were lazy as hell. If you havn’t heard, Morosawa habitually turned in scripts late, forcing the team to do clip shows over and over in the series. Most series of anime have only 1 clip show, and this one ends up having 4. If you add in the stock footage, I’d say a good 20% of the whole series was reused footage. If you want to use stock footage, at least don’t make it so damn obvious.
Personally I could give less of a crap of where the romances in the series go, because all of them are so unrealistic (In terms of two people actually coming to understanding of each other)- I want to see some real character development, not this half-assed do-your-best-to-copy-Evangelion bull crap. They also need less shoddy philosophy, or no philosophy at all. Gundam Wing taught us a very important lesson about how to give the right lines to the right people. A 14-year-old teenager that has been trained to kill shouldn’t know squat about peace and loving.
A bad ending…and definitely not a good starting as well…kinda like bits & pieces of story ripped off from Zeta Gundam.
Mechas: Impulse…notice how it is very similar to Victory Gundam?
Zaku is almost a ripped off from UC ZakuII
Gouf …..a total ripped off from UC Gouf
Dom Troopers……a ripped off from UC Dom
Akatsuki…..just reminds me of hyaku shiki (Z Gundam)
I see GS & GSD as a remake of Gundam & Z Gundam which have a huge fanbase even til now… I just hope they dun come out with a 3rd installment tat will be a rip off from ZZ gundam…
They won’t rip off ZZ Gundam because it was met with negative feedback. If anything, they’ll rip off Victory next. And the copied mechas are homages (Though personally I think they overdid it). Impulse doesn’t nearly have as many practical uses as the UC gundam with Core Block systems. ZZ and Victory have a top and bottom fighter function, which can lead to more strategic fighting, particularly in Victory because it’s mass produced. At the same time, the original Gundam had a core block because it was a prototype and the core fighter was needed to get the test data to safety. The Destiny doesn’t seem to use it for anything. The only time Shinn ever made use of it was during his fight with Kira.
And at a personal level I find FINAL PLUS as a shady way to apologize for all the mistakes during the show’s production. They could’ve made an even better ending if they didn’t waste so much time. Personally, I was really fired up when this series first started, because it tried to make it’s own story instead of ripping off UC. The uninspired Gundams didn’t really matter to me until they started ripping off the plot from Zeta too. Blargh.
Do any of you remember that Lacus was happy for Kira to have the Freedom and fight in episode 34 in SEED. But in GSD, she was all scared to hand the Freedom to Kira in episode 13(I reckon that she thinks that it is outdated). When the StrikeFreedom came out, she was like “take it and fight like a man”!!! I think she just doesn’t want to fight in an old Mobile Suite in case he gets thrashed.
HI EVERYONE I LIKE TO TALK IN CAPS CAUSE IT ANNOYS PEOPLE BUT HEY DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN KIRA JETIZENED HIS NUCLEAR REATOR THAT TECHINCALLY THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BIGGER EXPLOSION THEN THAT AND THAT HE SHOULD HAVE DIER. WHY CANT PEOPLE STAY DEAD JEEZ ITS LIKE OH THERE HE GOES BOOOMMM BOOOOOM (dosent have as much effect:)) and next ep oh look hes only got a slight wound to the forehead and hes back in action. OOPS FORGOT CAPS :> ITS LIKE WTF. ANYWAYS FINAL PLUS WAS COOL THOUGH THE BLONDE BIMBO SHOULD HAVE SHOT THE WOMAN TOO, JUST FOR GOOD MEASURE. I THINK THAT LACUS IS COOL EVEN THOUGH SHE IS A BIT TOO HIGH AND MIGHTY OF HERSLEF AND THAT SHE LOVES KIRA WHOS ALSO A BIT OF A SHOW OFF AND A POMPUS TWAT. WELL THERE I GO AGAIN ANOTHER ESSAY FOR THOSE DEVOTEES THAT ARE FULL METAL PANIC SUPPORTERS WHICH ARE SO MUCH MORE FUNNY TESSA CHIDORI!!!!! WOOOHOO
IF they make another gundam seed with kira im going to get pissed because i just cant stand kira. he says fighting is wrong but what does he do fight and the fact that he doesnt kill anymore reminds me of gundam wing endless waltz no one killed over 20 ppl.and wats with asran and the red gundams and self detentation its a complete rippoff gundam wing and how all the pioles try to do even though quatra and heero did it in the eps and the rest did it in the movie.
and i noticed herros wing gundam zero custom was never acctually destroyed because it shows a clip of him jumping out.
hi!!! i’m just new here, i’m really interested in gs/gsd
Well, u guys are not the only one who is dissapointed about gsd series. Specially that my favorite couple Cagalli and Athrun was having a hard time on their relationship. Why did they made Cagalli so helpless in GSD. She’s not a crybaby before in gs but when i watched gsd i noticed that she cried a lot. Then, why does she have to be almost married to that weird looking guy( i forgot his name but i don’t care about him so…)and make the relationship of Athrun and Cagalli so complicated. I mean, Athrun already gave Cagalli a ring so why do they have to force her marry someone else. They just made so dissapointed on that part.
Athrun totally should have come back for Cagalli like in the Princess Bride. That would have been awesome.
I was really hoping that Athrun would once again ask Cagalli to marry him. So that Cagalli will know that Athrun still “loves” her.
hi its just so odd how they use the same clips over and over again its like noooo variation in fights
A 3rd installment of GS has been confirmed by Sunrise. Just thought I would drop by to say that.
Secondly, I read a comment about how Kira’s SF didn’t get damaged a bit after the battle and yet he got owned by Shinn earlier. Well it’s obvious why isn’t it? First, its SF he’s piloting. Second, it’s space you are in. Third, you know what he’s like now. Anyone who has fought an enemy that they have thought before will know what to expect. I guess whoever left the comment never fought before.
Thirdly, if you were Kira, what would you do? Thought so. If you can’t figure out what to do yourself don’t complain about him doing what he thinks is right and ultimately saving a lot of lives not to mention his own sanity.
Fourth, Lacus hesitated to hand off Freedom to Kira again since the both of them never wanted to battle again. But when she handed off SF she knew Kira was fine now. That’s a more emotional part I guess some of you blockheads would never understand.
Fifth, it makes no sense that Cagalli and Athrun should marry that fast anways. As Athrun says, take it slow.. as long as they are travelling the same path everything will turn out good and perhaps even better. This is why your relationships never work, whoever keeps posting that Cagalli and Athrun should’ve married.
Sixth, Kira and Lacus never kissed is something I am suprised about as well. It doesn’t matter that much really. We both know they have far more karma than a lot of other characters. To be in love doesn’t require that they kiss. Not to mention the 50+ epi showed them naked to emphasize the purity of the two and their relationship. Sometimes you got to think deeply.
Seventh, Cagalli became more political. That was a responsibility handed off to her by her father. Responsibility. Whoever complained that Cagalli isn’t as kickass as she used to be in GS OBVIOUSLY doesn’t know what that word means.
And so ends my rant on how idiotic you blockheads really are.
heheh lol got a points there!!! glad to here Gundam is continuing hope GS 3 is good and hope one of the main dudes or gals die as it would make for a super cool nex ep!!!! hi to all tessa people!!!
“Secondly, I read a comment about how Kira’s SF didn’t get damaged a bit after the battle and yet he got owned by Shinn earlier. Well it’s obvious why isn’t it? First, its SF he’s piloting. Second, it’s space you are in. Third, you know what he’s like now. Anyone who has fought an enemy that they have thought before will know what to expect. I guess whoever left the comment never fought before.”
Except you forgot the part where Shinn got the Destiny Gundam (Which is still an upgrade from that Impulse at least), that he fought several times in space before, and he had many other weapons at his disposal. I suppose one could say he didn’t plan ahead as much after the first time he defeated Kira (Since he had a discussion about it with Rey and all that the first time), but the degree to which he was defeated is plain unbelievable. Not a single scratch on his opponent? Shinn isn’t that bad of a pilot. Uh, I mean, he wasn’t, until the last episode.
“Sixth, Kira and Lacus never kissed is something I am suprised about as well. It doesn’t matter that much really. We both know they have far more karma than a lot of other characters. To be in love doesn’t require that they kiss. Not to mention the 50+ epi showed them naked to emphasize the purity of the two and their relationship. Sometimes you got to think deeply.”
I mentioned I really don’t care about the relationships so I ignored those points since they arn’t directed at me, but this on is plain stupid. Your whole point of “thinking deeply” doesn’t work with a show that degenerates into a lot of screaming, crying, and no time taken (In comparison to the time wasted) to actually go solve all the problems. And the naked parts of all the show are pointless, pointless, fan service. Yeah, I gotta think real deep about those boobs.
Also, taking up the handle “Reu Le Mwu Le Klueze” only shows you are a Gundam SEED Fanboy and apparently can’t take people criticizing what turned out to be the worst gundam ever produced (Aside maybe Double Zeta, but at least that had a good ending. To me, this show was the other way around with a strong opening and a beyong horrible conclusion, which is much worse imo).
You know what’s the saddest part of the series though? The fact that it’s a marketing ploy to get teenagers and children to buy models (Which is actually what Gundam has been for a while now, so meh), but Strike Freedom, the most advertized model kit, has been slashed to less than half its original price because nobody is buying the SEED Destiny model kits. Maybe Sunrise will learn that people don’t want Gundams that are basically the same damn thing, except they have shiny hands and feet.
hi everyone! i was wondering whether any of you know when the GSD OVA/Final Plus (in english language) will be out in DVD. I really want to watch it! ^-^
The Ova totally sucked! What a dissapointment! And what ever happens with Athrun and Cagalli?! All they show at the end of the OVA is Athrun and MEYRIN (?!?!?!) walking away together, (kira and lacus together, shinn and luna together going separate ways). I mean WHAT”S WITH THAT!? They really tried to get too much done in GSD and ended up not finishing anything they started. I’m sorry to say but that was horrible. (I’m mainly just mad about cagalli and athrun)
Note: Final Plus spoilers (possibly) ahead.
The OVA was the same crappy ending, with 5 minutes of what the Shinn fans wanted taped onto the end. Worst apology episode I’ve ever seen. Oh wow, you made a battle that wasn’t all stock footage – obviously Fukuda is taking advantage of the fact that a large amount of the fanbase are people who only care about flashy lights in battles, and no actual fighting.
Shinn changed so fast it seemed like he became some kind of bi-polar retard. Some people say Stellar was the one who changed him back, but I don’t buy it. Stellar comes in and says a bunch of bullshit that people say you have to think deep to understand, and all I hear is a script that was thrown together with no thought whatsoever. It’s like Evangelion – people reading too deep into a crappy abstract script.
Let us hope that C.E. 73 Stargazer is much better than SEED Destiny. Of course, it’s not directed by Fukuda, so it’s already a given to begin with. I can’t imagine how much worse anybody can make a Gundam series,
Is cagalli and athrun still going out in Destiny like at the end and stuff?because everybody is saying they dont see them together no more and im wondering if they broke up?
i hope gundam seed eternity is good no no i hope it is awsome FreedomJustice where did you get the info of eternity
is athrun stil dating cagalli
Im guessing theres gonna be a gundam named eternity gundam…..
You know these new gundam series arnt as good as the old ones only francise(excuse my spelling errors)animes are being relesed these days for example yu-gi-oh, pokemon(at first it was okey) digimon and now gundam is gonna become one of those gayass franciese animes. hopefully it wont but with gundam seed destiny and its horrid ending i wouldnt be surprised if does. The whole seed universe in general was not as good as most gundam series and the gundam designs are very lame compared to the other gundam designs………………….I despise Fuka.
ye i agree with ya they did suck but even if there are no links to a official site that doesnt mean its a false rumor after all it might have been leaked in other words the official site hasnt posted anything yet but some one got a hold of the info and posted it
i looked up seed eternity i think it is going to be total crap
damn i thought Kira died. sorry i really think his char should die he is to winey. Anyway I think Athrun and Cagalli are somewhat still together. and i have no clue about Lacus and Kira. so yeah i’d rather watch it then read it later.
“Actually..i think the worst Gundam series ever = Turn A Gundam”
Wow, have you even ever watched Turn A before? Turn A is, without a doubt, one of the best Alternate Universe Gundams. Yeah, it has a dorky looking mustache on the main gundam, but that doesn’t change the fact it has one amazing story, not to mention good characters.
“That aside, if u know Japanese, or even some Chinese u’ll know y Kira didnt die when Shinn beat Kira, Kira pressed the “Emergency Nuclear Power Cutoff” in order to stop the thing from blowing up…thus saving him and Shinn.”
Uh, it never showed him doing that, which kills your argument all by itself. They only put in 5 lines of explanation in the episode after Shinn beat Kira. Let’s ignore the giant-motherfucking NUCLEAR explosion that occured when Shinn beat Kira (Which should have killed both of them anyway)!
“Personally I think Kira was introduced way too early in GSD to keep him from being a main character again. If anyone remember Zeta, Amaro was introduced in the middle of the series after Camille was recongized by the viewers as the “main” character. That would be the right choice of action (it wouldnt matter about “ripping off” from other series…since GS and GSD rips all the plot twist off of other Gundam’s anyways) Instead they introduced Kira so early in the series that it was clear to me that Kira will once again be the hero, tho i am surprised that they decided to make Shinn into an annoying little brat.”
No, it would be easy to make Kira a supporting character. By, oh, I don’t know, NOT MAKING WHOLE EPISODES CENTERING ON HIM? They don’t need to show him in every damn episode. It’s not like the very existance of Kira prevents Shinn’s spotlight- it was just the choices made by the incompetent director and scriptwriter that caused the show to become a bloody mess.
“I personally like the Kira becuz of his development in SeeD and continue into GSD”
LMFAO. Kira. Development. Right.
“Rey was understable becuz wat he believed in was the “future” and he thought he was creating the perfect future and once he realized that he was wrong he didnt “jump ship” he simply followed wat he feel is right- “But…he wishes for a future…” was how he commented on Kira when after he shot the Chairman.”
No, Rey was bipolar, much like the rest of the cast. Take a close look and you’ll see that Rey is the one always telling Shinn to not listen to Athrun’s nonsense, and then he ends up listening to Kira’s moronic babbling. What the hell did Rey care for the future? He was stubborn as hell, and was dedicated to continuing Rau’s legacy. Kira gave him 3 or 4 lines of crap and he jumped ship? Right.
“Also, the reason Kira lost to Shinn the first time was that Archangel and he never wanted to fight him in the first place, and he was also distracted when Archangel was heavily damaged, u can called this excuse lame, call it stupid. But at least it holds this story together.”
No, Kira lost to Shinn the first time because Shinn planned ahead and knew exactly what the hell he was going to do. Kira fought too predictably, which caused his defeat. It has nothing to do with him being distracted by the Archangel.
“Kagari(its Kagari, like on the back of the picture in Seed)”
It says “Cagalli” on the back of the picture in SEED. I sense Japanese fanboyism.
“Now, to the MS…I’ve watched nearly every Gundam series…and played a ton of the games. What I can say is…Strike Freedom is the ultimate MS by far…I mean ever since Nu open my eyes to a Gundam that possess the “Dragoon” system, I always wanted to see a the ultimate Gundam- Dragoon System, Huge Mika laser beams like the ones in Wing, and something that doesnt look so clumsy like Nu Gundam…and when i saw Strike Freedom my prayers were answered. Amazing design, Dragoon system, 6 laser cannons…it’s so beautiful it can make a grown man cry…but the sad part is…such a Gundam, MS rather, should not be in an actual Gundam series since it takes away from the Pilot’s actual abilities…and i mean Kira is the ultimate Coordinator ffs…with Shinn and Rey’s performance in the ep50 he probably woulda won with a Zaku. Altho…Strike Freedom is definitely the nicest looking, and the most powerful Gundam by far. (only thing missing is the martial art stuff from G Gundam…but that stuff blows anyways)”
That’s the exact damn thing everyone is complaining about. The Strike Freedom is a cop-out Gundam, with the exact same design as the Freedom, except with a few altered parts. It has so many weapons and overpowered things that it does not belong in a gundam series. Seriously, if the Freedom could shoot down 50 suits in one shot, they might as well make 4 or 5 Freedoms instead of mass-producing their worthless GINNs. Kira is like the ultimate self-insert fan fiction character, with the “ultimate” version of everything and 5 different ways of “winning when he gets angry”. Deep character? Right. I won’t argue that the very design of the Strike Freedom is ugly, because it isn’t- it’s a very good looking Gundam. However, it still has the most plot armor of any supposed real robot I’ve ever seen- especially with Jesus Yamato piloting it.
Also nice how to describe “martial arts” as “blowing”. Sounds like you’re the type of guy that watched the first 5 episodes of G Gundam before deciding it sucks. I’m not going to single you out here- a lot of people thought that. But given time, G Gundam was a very good series, despite taking Gundam in a very strange direction. At least the series was original. *Cough*
“Kira: – Realized that he was created, not born
- Realized Rey and Raww were both “failed” creations and they despise him(haunted by his past)
- Forced to pilot Strike when he was forced to protect the ship, he never wanted to kill anyone
- Nearly killed by his best friend, at the same time he tried to kill his best friend
- Death of Toru(sp?) which was a dear friend
- Killed Nichol accidentally, again reinforces that “dont wanna kill” point, watch it to see Kira cry
- Forced to kill people while surpressing that sadness becuz he needed to do it to “protect”
- Somewat controlled by Fray
- Death of Fray, who he had an awkard but deep connection with
- Forced to face his past against both Raww and Rey (this coulda been done more in-depth imo)
- Last point, and this one is what everyone underestimated: The death of the child who gave Kira the flower. Altho she’s completely unrelated to him, u have to understand who that child represent in order to know the significance of this death. During this time Kira was under the manipulation of Fray, who tells Kira he needs to “protect” them, and Kira was desperately fighting to protect them. To fight to the very best of ur ability and fall short and watch someone that thanked you earlier for protecting them dies becuz of ur failure. That is heartbreaking to Kira becuz he failed to live up to that flower, and he lost something that he believed in.”
1. Kira was NOT created. He was simply born from an artificial womb. He was still a human, except that he was born from a artificial womb so that he could become the so called “Ultimate coordinator”. However, he did learn that his father was a pedantic asshole, so I suppose that could give him trauma.
2. Rau and Rey just hated the entirety of humanity- the only reason they seem to hate Kira more is because he is a very dangerous obstacle
3. The “I don’t want to kill” part is done horribly. Why? Because Kira doesn’t go be all depressed when he kills normal GINN soldiers; He did, however, get all angsty after killing Nicol, which doesn’t make any sense, because he didn’t know Nicol, and he didn’t know he was Athrun’s friend. Hell, he didn’t even know who was piloting the Blitz, so what difference would it make?
4. He was willing to be controlled by Fray, because he already liked her. In the end, I’m sure Fray did more good than bad, because she helped Kira relieve his stress while he continued to fight. Sure, he was a little in the dark about the whole “I want to kill Coordinators” thing, but it only helped him in the end, which is why he was still in love with Fray at the end of the show. Her death, then, would actually mean something to him, because she had changed and only wanted to return to him.
“On the other hand, Shinn, altho tragic, continues to be an igorant brat and developed into a simple annoyance at the end of GSD. This imo is y i feel Shinn wasnt as good as a character as Kira. Come to think about it…Mayb after the death of Stellar Fukada realized that he couldnt possibly create the second Camille(Gundam Zeta) so he made Shinn into an annoying character.”
They made Shinn into an annoying character because Kira was the main character after a while. Like the OP, it’s like they forgot where they were going with the story, and then it degenerated into what we have now. Shinn SHOULD’VE changed from a brat to a mature young man by the end of the story, but Fukuda won’t give the fans that luxury- he has to stuff it into the last 2 minutes of FINAL PLUS.
Also, FYI, there is a SEED movie in production, as well as a mini-series of C.E. 73 STARGAZER coming out soon. I haven’t heard much about a so-called SEED: Eternity. It’s a rumor, plain and simple.
Everyone knows its a rumor but theres still a chance it could be real so seriously put the eternity to the side and everyone already knows about the stargazer series afterall it even has a website
Stargazer, everyone knows about it, Seed movie is news to me, mayb i’ll look into that.
Ok, now to ur so called argument:
Turn-A Gundam, i’m not even gonna get into the design of the Gundam. Lets get into the story, wat is so different from the normal UN vs Zeon/ZAFT/insert other army here plot?
Ok, to answer Kira pressing the button thing, I’m just gonna post 2 screenshots….cuz if i argue with u like this its pointless:
This is Freedom after the fight. These are The Buttons i was talking about, where u claim never existed.
And this is Kira. Btw this is all in Ep35 of Gundam Seed Destiny, unless u r blind or arguing without basis, you can see it too~
I stand corrected on the Cagalli issue, my bad it does say Cagalli on the back, o ya…if u wanna be picky the buttons r in english and i thought it was in Japanese, i guess i stand corrected on that too…
Artifical womb, how is that different from CREATING???? R u listening to urself? ARTIFICAL MEANS FAKE, MAN-MADE, not by nature….which means, man-made womb, and if something is BORN from the man-made womb isnt that created? God do we need a dictionary here? Born means naturally born btw
Do u know wat Bipolar means…? Wat u describe Rey as is a Hypocrite, not a Bipolar, bipolar is a psychological disorder- One can be extremely excited at times and suddenly turned depressed for no reason. Rey always fought for the future, he wasnt continuing Rau’s legacy, if u actually listen to wat Rey said to Shinn u’ll see that:
“U have to believe in the chairman, he will create the future”
“Actually, i dont have a future at all”
“But….he wishes for a future…..”
He wanted to kill Kira becuz 1) He was created as a failed experiment to Kira, so naturally he would despise him 2) The future that Chairman wants, Rey feels that Kira doesn’t belong there becuz after all, he is the ultimate creation, and if everything was selected by their genes then Kira would be God in that world, therefore Rey must erase wat he thinks was a “mistake” that peeps made from the past, before he dies.
O ya…Rey doesnt hate all humanity, he hates Kira Yamato, Rau is the one that hates all of humanity, thats y REY ask Shinn to protect the Chairman and the Future and Rau chose to instigate the war between the Alliance and ZAFT.
Noone congratz him when he killed a GINN soldier, not a whole crowd buzzing around him, and he WAS depress….thats y Fray was there to “comfort” him. He was angry killing Nicol becuz everyone congratz him on taking down a Gundam, if u cant see pass ur own prejudice ffs stop posting. O ya, fyi, he cried like a little girl when he thought he killed Andrew. Just f y i…
Strange diection yes, thats y i didnt like it. I’m sry, am i not suppose to state my opinion in this board? were u suppose to give me my opinion? I never said the series was not orginal, and also….i do remmeber say that Seed AND destiny rips off from all the old Gundams plot twist, did i not? hmm lemme see:
hmm who said that, o wait! ITS ME!!!!
Seed did it pretty well in ripping off from other Gundams imo, the story was well organized and such, destiny on the other end…sigh…
There was no real UN in Turn-A Gundam. The main character was from the moon, and unlike a lot of the people moving out to space, the Moonrace WANTED to go back to Earth, and was even willing to fight for it (One could probably guess life on the moon isn’t exactly enjoyable). The main character wanted to protect both sides, because he was originated from Moonrace but had many friends on the Earth side (Which had become a Victorian-like society, so their technology was beyond overwhelmed). It is somewhat similar to Kira- however, one thing I didn’t like about Kira was his overbearing idealism, and how everything had to be done his way (While the way Kira does things isn’t the “bad” way, it might be too ideal to be practical).
For the Kira button thing, it was a plot device to me. It can hardly explain how there was a huge explosion, and both ended up surviving (Though I assume Shinn probably lived from his PS Armor). It’s not exactly convincing to me that Kira convienently had the torso part of the Freedom left over (With only a trickle of blood down his chin- if the PS Armor from the Freedom protected him, he shouldn’t have been injured at all), even though it was clear that the Freedom completely exploded. Also, Nuclear Reactors arn’t exactly a switch-on, switch-off thing. I’ll admit I don’t know the exact physics involved, but you can’t boil down Nuclear substances to on-and-off switches.
Sorry, guess I didn’t get your exact meaning. By create, I thought you mean create from scratch- which Kira is not. Kira is indeed the son of the scientists- I assume they took him while he was still en embryo and put him in an artificial womb, much like the test-tube babies of today. Only that way can he be a BIOLOGICAL twin of Cagalli, with Cagalli being a Natural while Kira is still a coordinator.
“Do u know wat Bipolar means…? Wat u describe Rey as is a Hypocrite, not a Bipolar, bipolar is a psychological disorder- One can be extremely excited at times and suddenly turned depressed for no reason. Rey always fought for the future, he wasnt continuing Rau’s legacy, if u actually listen to wat Rey said to Shinn u’ll see that:
“U have to believe in the chairman, he will create the future”
“Actually, i dont have a future at all”
“But…he wishes for a future….”
He wanted to kill Kira becuz 1) He was created as a failed experiment to Kira, so naturally he would despise him 2) The future that Chairman wants, Rey feels that Kira doesn’t belong there becuz after all, he is the ultimate creation, and if everything was selected by their genes then Kira would be God in that world, therefore Rey must erase wat he thinks was a “mistake” that peeps made from the past, before he dies.
O ya…Rey doesnt hate all humanity, he hates Kira Yamato, Rau is the one that hates all of humanity, thats y REY ask Shinn to protect the Chairman and the Future and Rau chose to instigate the war between the Alliance and ZAFT.”
Yes, I know what bi-polar means, and that’s what Rey is in this case. He is very confident in the chairman one second and gone the next, from Kira’s protangonist nonsense no less. What Kira says is somewhat similar to what Athrun is saying all the time, so I can’t imagine how he is changed by Kira and not Athrun. He tells Shinn the chairman will create the future because they are USING Shinn. That’s the whole thing- Shinn is like the Darth Vader of Gundam: He’s not truly a “bad” person by definition, but he was misguided by evil people (AKA the Chairman). Even if Rey didn’t hate humanity, he was willing to follow the chairman and Rau enough to believe that he did. In fact, they flash back to it several times:
Rey: “Where’s Rau?”
Dullindal: “Rau…isn’t with us anymore. However…you, too, are Rau… That is our destiny.”
Actually, one of the lines Rau continuously utters is “We will end all of this!” He wanted to finished the job Rau could not finish- however, he would not be able to do that unless the obstacle that stopped Rau (Kira) was out of the way. Kira and Rey are different types of experiements. Kira was a normal human, enhanced in an artificial womb. Rey and Reu were both clones of Mu La Flaga’s father. It might be a subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless.
“Noone congratz him when he killed a GINN soldier, not a whole crowd buzzing around him, and he WAS depress…thats y Fray was there to “comfort” him. He was angry killing Nicol becuz everyone congratz him on taking down a Gundam, if u cant see pass ur own prejudice ffs stop posting. O ya, fyi, he cried like a little girl when he thought he killed Andrew. Just f y i…
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Strange diection yes, thats y i didnt like it. I’m sry, am i not suppose to state my opinion in this board? were u suppose to give me my opinion?”
Great how you point out that me expressing my opinion makes me qualified to stop posting, while you argue that you deserve your own opinion.
It doesn’t show every single time Kira comes back from a sortie. Keep in mind the words Kira said when he got back from killing Nicol:
“Please stop! I just got back from killing someone, you know!”
He only got sad over the death of Nicol, as opposed to many other ZAFT soldiers. Before then, he was guilty because of his inability to protect Flay’s father. I think the whole issue would’ve driven him crazy if Flay wasn’t there to accompany him, bad intentions or not. Also, yes, he cried when he thought he killed Andrew, but that’s my exact point: It seems strange to me that he would only grief the deaths of major characters that are introduced to the audience, as opposed to the faceless soldiers of ZAFT who all have their own family, friends, and lives. However, I personally thought the Kira-Andrew fight was executed better, because Kira had actually MET Andrew physically, giving him a good reason to be depressed. If you see the face of your enemy before you kill them, especially knowing that they arn’t completely a bad person, you would feel bad. However, Kira never saw Nicol, aside from perhaps when Athrun was returning Tori to him. However, at that point, Nicol was standing in the background, so I doubt he noticed him.
I never said you DIDN’T say it. Way to read.
If u truly wanna argue about logic….then everything in Gundam is a plot device, I mean how can Nu-type block laser with their powers, or how about Wingzero being able to predict an enemy’s movement. Truth is, Gundam’s story is driven by the plot, and there are somethings that u wonder how it can possibly happen, but then again, we r watching an anime with humanoid robots fighting in space, with space colony that makes no sense wat-so-ever, so if u call that button a plot-device, then u must acknowledge the rest of Gundam plot twist as all “plot devices”
Two major differences between Athrun and Kira, first Athrun isnt the ultimate Coordinator, second Athrun targeted Shinn and not Rey. Rey doesnt hate Athrun cuz he has absolutely no relations to him, and wat Athrun said to Shinn was somewat different from wat Kira said to Rey as well. Athrun constantly try to get Shinn to let go of his past and understand wat he truly wants to fight for:
“Everyone…when their powerless, desires power to change. Once they have obtained the power however, they become the ones that makes other people cry”
Rey has no relations to this becuz Rey KNOWS wats he’s fighting for, he fights for the Chairman’s ideals, yes, HIS ideals not the destruction of the world, the line “We’ll end all this” does not mean end the world, means end ALL wars. We’ll (Rey and Shin) end all this (War, LOGOs) in case u can’t see. Simply put it, Rey is gonna die soon, he doesnt wanna see people competing and be greedy again and create him and Rau, he doesnt want a world with anymore Kiras, Reys and Raus. Thats y he fight, to create the chairman’s world, where there will be no need to create Kiras, hence no more failed experiments. He said this to Shinn when he told him he was a clone: “Trust the chairman, and create a world where people like me don’t exist”
However, he still hates Kira becuz he was a failed experiment for him. What Kira said to him (btw i do agree this needed to be extended somewhat, but at least it convey’d the core idea), was that HIS (Rey’s) life is his, and should never be controlled by anyone else (Chairman, and also the Destiny Plan, where everyone’s life will be controlled by it), Kira opened Rey’s eyes to see that Kira is fighting for a future, he’s fighting for a future where war can be stopped, not WILL be, but CAN be. When the Chairman was arguing with Kira, and when he said,
D:”Who can say the world will understand each other? U cant say that, nor can she!”
K: “I believe that we can understand, and we can helped each other and prevent this from happening again, at least in a world where we can choose!”
skip to~
D: “If u killed me and the world falls back into Chaos, what will u do?”
K: “I’m prepared for it……I will fight!”
Notice how Rey reacted in the background when he understood what Kira was fighting for, where the future will be peace and freedom(Lame lame lame foreshadowing over here…Kira piloting Freedom, and he’s fighting for freedom -.-). At any rate he understand that wat he hope for, no more “stupid” experiment, no more wars, greed, can also be achieved by Kira’s method, and how Kira was determined to make this happen without the restriction of personal freedom, its y in my opinion Rey was shook. O and btw….changing opinions is no bi-polar…read my post again to see wat bi-polar psychological disorder means =/
He was guilty but he was clearly also sad (Remember when he was crying at the deck and Cagalli came to comfort him?) He was sad cuz he couldn’t protect and thats how Flay was able to control Kira so easily. Second, whenever Kira came back noone congratulate him on killing anyone, of course he doesnt have to say “Stop it, i just killed someone” cuz noone ever brought that situation up where he had to say that. I mean i can’t say that he’ll say that line everytime he comes back IF peeps were to gather and congratulate him, but the fact is that was the first time he was faced with a happy crowd of peeps becuz he had KILLED someone.
Honestly dude, I dunno y u r so negative about the series, sure it wasn’t the best, u cannot possibly compare Kira to Amuro or Charr or Camille. However I do think there’s a certain credibility to this series, and I do believe Kira was actually a well developed character. I dont think any of us like how Destiny ended, but bitching about it endlessly on a board doesnt make it better, and making comments like “Jesus Yamato” doesn’t make u legit, or makes u smarter. Also, its almost clear to me that u still follow the series to know that a spinoff is coming out as well as a movie, i dunno if u gonna watch those just to bitch more on the boards or u actually wanna see them, either case u still “care” enuf to follow it. I dunno if u r just bitching about various things to enlarge ur e-peen, but mayb u should use terms that u r familar with, look up Bi-polar >
Well, I think that next gundam anime series is gundam seed msv cause I found a trailer on youtube about it, here is the link :
seed revolution
and also because this japanese site has some information about mechs variation and character info.But since I don’t know japanese, I can’t make heads or tail about it and babelfish can’t translate well enough for me to understand what the webpage say.
Netboy10
P.S: I don’t know If that japanese site is the official site but I think it is.
This…is….lame…..
Those Gundams all look like the same Gundams from SeeD and Destiny with a different paint job….
except one of them looked exactly like Wing….looks like the Gundam Battle Royale rumor = True
Gundam Seed uses Lame
Gundam Seed series recieves the effect of Lameness
Actually…looking more into this might be just another side story, thank you god
netboy10, that MSV Trailer is merely a little something that was included in a Gundam game in Japan.
So it’s not promotional material for any sort of future Gundam anime…
As for the characters and mobile suits in the trailer, at least some of them come straight from Astray (the manga).
As for continuations of the Cosmic Era universe.
So far only 2 things have been confirmed:
- The Gundam SEED: Destiny Special Edition.
A retelling of the story from Athrun’s point of view, first episode is already out.
- The Gundam SEED C.E. 73 Stargazer spin-off.
A side-story to Gundam SEED: Destiny, starting after the colony drop. A trailer can already be found on Bandai Channel and the first (of 3) episodes will be live on the 14th of July (also on Bandai Channel).
Unlike previous Gundam SEED’s, this has nothing to do with anyone in the original cast, so it wont feature Kira, Athrun, Cagalli, or anyone else from the original 2 anime. In fact, even the staff working on Stargazer is entirely different – which definitely shows if you watch the trailer: the character design is completely different from Gundam SEED & Destiny ; as is the overall atmosphere of it all, much darker and far less colorful..
Anyway, the trailer seems promising enough, definitely going to watch this one.
Nothing else has been announced as of yet.
I dunno if i can take another Gundam series atm, honestly i just want something to completely end Seed, just get it over and done with. I just hate how this series “ended” but the ending seems “unfinished”. I hope to god they dont come out with a new one….cuz then i’ll be forced to watch it on the basis on “finishing” the story :S
seed seed destiny it makes no diffrence all i came here to say is shinn sucks didn’t we all came here to say that.
ye the gundam trailer you posted was from from the jap gundam game Gundam seed towards a never ending tommorow. Msv might not be an anime series because im preety sure that they ( by they i mean anyone who makes a gundam anime) don’t make animes for variations( msv stands for mobile suit variations).
“- The Gundam SEED: Destiny Special Edition.
A retelling of the story from Athrun’s point of view, first episode is already out.”
correction they realesed two so far.
-_- i really hate destiny’s end it really didn’t make sense. Kira doesn’t want to fight but then he is saying i will kill you for peace which will eventually lead to yet another war.Why can’t the villan win just once.
Wrong “theperson”, only 1 episode of the Special Edition has been released so far.
Read Gunota, the -cover- for the second episode was released only 5 days ago, the scheduled date for the 2nd episode to appear is something like 25 August. (that is, in DVD form – I don’t know whether Bandai Channel will air it before that as it did with episode 1)
You’ve probaply got two 45 minute pieces of episode 1 (which is 1 and a half hour long).
Oops!
I don’t know how I managed to forget this….
Gundam SEED will indeed be continued.
Sunrise announced a Gundam SEED movie in early May.
It’ll be the first completely original Gundam feature film since F91.
I don’t think anyone will mind if it’s as good as F91 was ;o
So yeah, Gundam SEED is NOT finished yet.
If you want a link to the press release so you can confirm it for yourself, head over to Gunota and search for the 6th of May – first post.
Oh ye your right my bad
i’m all for the movie idea, as long as it ends the god fosaken story without having it dragging into another series! I just hope the movie is not a recap and just end this thing.
I think Talia’s son is shin.
At first I wondered why, why would she say such a thing…is it possible she’s Kira’s mother
and that’s why she didn’t blow his brains, and maybe that’s why she told him to meet up with
Murrue? – But that can’t be, Kira’s an Hibiki and furthermore he’s already been riding with Murrue
for two full seasons now…no no…That just couldn’t be right.
But! – - – but what? But what about Shin! Shin’s a coordinator, she’s a coordinator…it could be.
How clever of the chairman to position shin, who could be her son, on the Minerva. Allowing for
the mother to keep an eye on her child and the future of ZAFT/PLANT.
unfortunately he just wasn’t enough. Some might say, what about his family that died? We’ve only
seen six seconds of them and a bunch of flashbacks of dead hands lying in rubble. I smell another
yamato adoption case here.
But to be sure, to be absolutely certain let’s look at what we know.
1- Her son would be a coordinator
2- He’s a male
3- Kira yamato has come into contact with him at least once, as she aludes in her final
and oh so mysterious requiem.
4- He’s still alive
So, that means her son, out of the possible list of male characters still living (which are few)
must be included in the following.
Ashrum and or his Dragon Slayer wannabes, Kira, and Shin.
But wait…Ashram and Kira have parentages that have been clearly defined.
I’m asuming the cronies have parents of a relatively high status, which we know they do,
so much so that they wouldn’t need to pilot space ships around.
That leaves only Shin. Every other 14-17 year old male is dead!
— Just food for thought. Just food…for thought.
“If u truly wanna argue about logic…then everything in Gundam is a plot device, I mean how can Nu-type block laser with their powers, or how about Wingzero being able to predict an enemy’s movement. Truth is, Gundam’s story is driven by the plot, and there are somethings that u wonder how it can possibly happen, but then again, we r watching an anime with humanoid robots fighting in space, with space colony that makes no sense wat-so-ever, so if u call that button a plot-device, then u must acknowledge the rest of Gundam plot twist as all “plot devices”"
Yes, I’ll acknowledge that EVERY last one of those is a plot device, with one thing: They were executed in a better manner than “Oops, he pressed the off button.” I’m not going to deny that the Shinn/Kira fight was badly executed, but I can say that the aftermath is too simple to be believable. Suspension of disblief.
“Honestly dude, I dunno y u r so negative about the series, sure it wasn’t the best, u cannot possibly compare Kira to Amuro or Charr or Camille. However I do think there’s a certain credibility to this series, and I do believe Kira was actually a well developed character. I dont think any of us like how Destiny ended, but bitching about it endlessly on a board doesnt make it better, and making comments like “Jesus Yamato” doesn’t make u legit, or makes u smarter. Also, its almost clear to me that u still follow the series to know that a spinoff is coming out as well as a movie, i dunno if u gonna watch those just to bitch more on the boards or u actually wanna see them, either case u still “care” enuf to follow it. I dunno if u r just bitching about various things to enlarge ur e-peen, but mayb u should use terms that u r familar with, look up Bi-polar”
I’m negative about the series, yes, and clearly so are you. I do, however, recognize that it accomplished a lot. “bitching about it endlessly on a board” is called “venting”, if you’ve ever heard it. And of course I’m still following the series: I thought it was pretty clear from the beginning that I am a Gundam nerd. Really, coming onto a anime board and discussing plot events of anime is something I would consider “nerdy” (Not in a overly negative connotation, mind you). Also, using “Jesus Yamato” is part sarcasm and part satire. Honestly, the series establishes that Kira is always right, and everyone following him will always win. Where the heck did you get the idea I was using it to sound “legit” or “smarter”? It was half tongue-in-cheek.
Yeah, real clever to use overly tired phrases like “e-peen” after specifically targeting me for using smart remarks of my own. That’s totally not hypocritical. Definately not. And I can’t believe you’re taking my describing of bi-polar literally: The whole “HA, YOU DIDN’T USE THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION” argument is really ineffective: Try rubbing a few brain cells together and figuring out what I meant by describing him as Bi-polar. If they stretched out the ending over the last 10 episodes or so instead of wasting time the first 8 and tacking a 2-episode ending, maybe I wouldn’t describe him like that.
Just to let everyone know, in the Japanese version Rey calls Talia “mother” as he embraces her before the fortress thing goes down. Not sure how Talia can be the mother of a clone but…ya….
Regarding the FreedomJustice and Symbios arguement;
1) Although Rey is not literally bipolar, he is figeratively bipolar. I mean, this guy jumped from one extreme to another in matter of minutes(from supporting Dullindal more than anyone else to killing Dullindal) by a single speech that was not even that impressive. Seriously, Rey could of at least tried to stop the shooting instead of just shooting Dullindal.
2) I think the term “Jesus Yamato” is quite humorous and appropriate. Kira is simply too perfect of a character; he is the “ultimate” coordinator piloting an overpowering gundam, he is unbelievably righteous (he doesn’t want to kill, but still fights to protect), he holds the “correct” philosophy of life, he has leadership qualities, he is, once again, the saviour of mankind (along with few others of course), and I’m sure people can come up with much more. Does anyone actually know any weakness of this guy?
3) I also saw the scene where Kira pressed the nuclear power cutoff buttom. But why was Freedom’s explosion still so large? Even if a nuclear explosion was avoided, an explosion that magnitude should have still taken out both Kira and Shinn.
Regarding the much-disliked Shinn: although I don’t like his personality, I would definately rather watch a show with an unorthodox protagonist than one with a cliched almighty/righteous main chara. All in all, I actually enjoyed GSD quite a bit from the beginning till the end (just don’t take the show seriously; it was intended for kids pretty much all ages afterall).
I totally agree wit Ender. Tis s some bullshit…Hey Ender, great blog n nce way of telling d writers off 2. Writers must’ve been some jackasses trying 2 piss d fans off on purpose 2 make somethin like tis so ridiculous…love ur name and ur msg. Pretty gud. Ur probly another smart guy who’s got “common sense” tat isnt so common anymore. Anyway hope u read tis msg. Probly not cause’ I submitted tis pretty late. I know.
Bob, I totally agree wit u except for the Yzak n Dearka part.
And as for Nosferatu…well…I agree wit u but I agree wit pablo too though. Shinn was being an asshole. But at d same time ur right, he did suffer a lot. I dun really know f Shinn’s not a bad guy onot but I agree wit both of u guys.
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There are only 2 things that are infinite. 1 of which is Human Stupidity.- Einstein
The ending was pretty dissapointing but the aftermath 5 minute clip helped a little. It showed athrun, kira, and shinn making peace and they vowed that they will fight together when they need to.
U know wat lastly athrun and cagalli married and get 3 daughters.
There’s one more gundam and it is ‘Gundam Seed Eternity’.That’s the last one butttttt………i’m not sure hehe.I’m happy because Furai i don’t know wat u guys call her but i call that name.Many people call her Fulai,Fly i don’t know but my sister call her Fulai.Lastly i’m happy because Kira n Lacus Clyne getting married hoho.OK that’s all bye -_- everybody………….Muah muahmuah just kidding hehehe
ya i like the ending that the whole world seems 2 be
complaining about but i just wished that kira would have
kicked shinn’s butt n showed him who the ultamite coordinator
is! i watched the gsd special edition 1 n they changed quite
a few things from the original anime but ANYWAY the reason
why im posting is 2 ask if anybody knows wat the gsd movie
is bout? heard that the main characters and stellar r returning
4 da movie so im tryin if ANYBODY knows or has an idea wat its
about…
ummmm……
I have a question to those frequently posting here…..ummm….
I read this in a certain website (which I won’t be mentioning), that in the third Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Eternity:
a. the possibility of Athrun and Meyrin being together outweighs the Athrun and Cagalli pairing.
-frankly I think this is stupid, and downright false.
b. it’s possible for Andrew to come between Mwu and Murrue
– no comment
c. Shin (yeah, THAT guy) will be one of the main characters and help defeat the enemies alongside Kira and
Athrun
– I really, really, don’t want that. in my opinion Shin is a useless character in the series, who only
deserves to die. (I esp hate him when he blamed Kira for the death of Stellar, when he was also trying to
kill her in the beginning)
d. Dearka and Milly are coming together
-no comment
e. the new enemy will be a teen, just about the characters’ age, and it was said that he/she will be having
a relationship with one of the main characters
– sort of like Shin and Stellar, Meer and Athrun
f. a much better and more fantastic Gundam will be introduced, much better than the Freedom, Justice,
etc.
-frankly I don’t know
g. the new villain will be a deadly, dangerous female, said to be the start of a new generation of coordinators.
>>> Frankly I don’t believe in any of these rumors, but I wanted to ask those who have any idea on the third Gundam Seed……not like I want another one, especially after the crappy anding of GSD.
Anyway, I hope any of you will be willing to reply.
Bye,
LA_KRIZ015
Well i could tolerate Shinn a little bit-fighting alongside Kira and Athrun. I really dislike Shinn for not even trying to open his eyes a little bit and being a selfish here and there. I mean. He acts like he’s the only one who ever felt pain before which really annoys me. But i guess Shinn kinda redeems himself at the end.
I really really hope that Athrun does not end up with Meyrin. I hardly know anything about her. It’s like she’s this minor character in the background that suddenly pops up later on into a major character. It’s just not right. Even i would never tell a story like that. I would be okay with it if i knew her as much as i know Cagalli (whom i cant believe has a weak position in GSD, I expected her to have some troubles, but not easily manipulated by others around her). What what annoys me a little bit is that some of the main characters go for the girly characters. Why cant someone end up with a tomboy instead???!?! And why do they have to go for the super perfect girls with the amazing eye and hair colors??? eh?? I dont think that Athrun and Meyrin will end up together.
Dearka and Milly, that would be an interesting pairing, knowing them two for a long time.
I dont want to see anymore new superior Gundams and enhanced Coordinators. that’s just a bit too repetitive. NO MORE PLEASE!!!
No more deadly females – Stellar is the only deadly female. No one can replace her. I liked her, but she died which made me sad.
ooOOOO!! i heard/read that Cagalli and Athrun are going to have 3 kids.
The worst thing about GSD was how it practically recylced everything from
GD and other series. The plot for example!!! OMG SOMEONE PWNED A BUNCH OF GUARDS AND STOLE GUNDAMS AND SOME PROTOTYPE SHIP HAS TO GO AFTER THEM…
OMFG EAF HAS A GIANT LASER WEAPON ON THE MOON! Austin Powers anyone?
*cough* Death Star *cough* ZAFT has one too? Is it called GENESIS? Nope, it would be mean if they called it the same thing as in GD! Which is why its new name is…NEO GENESIS OFMG!!!
Anyone notice how all of athrun’s gundams are lavender/red? and that he keeps breaking them? (self destruct x 2 i might add)I’m sure ZAFT could save alot of money if they just gave him a fighter rigged with explosives.
And Recycled Gundams!!! Strike Freedom was just the Same as Reg Freedom except they gave it those DRAGOON turrets, which make it twice as cheap as before. (IS THAT POSSIBLE?? 0_o) Rey’s Legend was the same thing as Creuset’s Providence, complete with 12704929 turrets. Justice was different in that it…was given a new paint job???
ZAKU’s,GOUF, DOM’s obviously came from Universal Century (ewww). Now BANDAI has a reason to resupply Walmart with 10 year old toys!!!Hooray for capitalism!
On a side note..
GDS does a good job with the morality issues with war and how destructive its cycle can be. But there was enough of that in the first SEED. The ending was pretty much the same and it was way to short. I’d give it a 3/5
GORILLAS ON A GUNDAM!!!
the third one is gundam seed stargazer people. and what ive heard of eternity is not so good. and i half to say shinn is idiotic. though the gs ending was not that bad. well , i heard bleach anime is coming to tv
i just realized something…
There is no sound in space…
So all those really cool lasers sounds and missles blowing up could never happen, ever.
Makes the future less exciting…
Haha good point darth.
Gundam seed destiny is the best anime sequels ever! I will always like the gundam series. Kira and Lacus are animes hottest couple dudes and dudettes! Also, the GATX- 19A Infinite Justice and the
GATX- 20A Strike-Freedom are the strongest mobile suits known to the GUNDAM(General Unilateral Nero-link Dispersive Assault Mobile) world. Well, I have to go now so see ya later!
P.S. Gundam seed destiny rules!
If they do a season 3 – I hope they get rid of Kira very early – in my opinion he didn’t really have value in the second season and now that I think about it – it was Athrun who carried the show from the point he became a good guy all the way to the season finale in GS and it was Athrun who was really the star of Destiny as well. Actually, stike that – Kira did have value in Destiny – he helped Athrun find his soul again which, in my opinion, is what the whole season was about in the first place. Lot of people on this blog find similarities to Star Wars and I laughed when I saw the whole emperor’s throne room – but I think the similarities run deeper than that – lightsabers vs. beamsabers – and of course the whole running plot of the season which was Athrun trying to mentor a young protege in the proper use of his powers and in the end having to fight his apprentice –
reminds me of stars wars 3 – except that thankfully in Plus he actually does become a good guy – cause I agree with those that say Shin got shafted for screen time the entire season. Also thought that the Millally breaking up with Dearka was cool too – they needed some time away from each other so that when they get back together in season 3 it’ll be more meaningful like Mwu and Ramius – as for things that I would like to see in 3 – first, eliminate Kira from the script really early cause his character is useless – maybe even get him killed in the first couple of episodes to drop the series into the heavy drama that gundams animes of past are so known for. And after Kira is killed (not a lot of people will agree with this one either) have Athrun help Lacus over her grief by dating her again(sort of a Pearl Harbour movie ending) – this would fit with the end of Destiny as it actually left it up in air who he was going out with at the time – or maybe have Athrun go out with Millaly (you’ll remember she had a fondness for him as well in Destiny – just that it was milder than Mier or Cagalli’s ) – actually I want Millaly to go out with Dearka kind of like Mwu and Ramius – and of course it should be Captain Millaly too – that’s the way Destiny ended – with Millally getting more screen time than any of the other crew of the Archangel – it would be a nice counterpoint for the first two seasons for Murrue – the story of the XO that didn’t work out (Natarle) as compared with the one who did (Millaly) – and of course Millaly deserves a new ship too – the Archangel by this point is getting really old and needs to be decommissioned – maybe have a scene of it in a war museum in Orb somewhere like in Hayato’s base in Zeta. Anyway – those are my thoughts – love me or hate me …
Actually, there is sound in space.
Also, way earlier in the thread someone mentioned that the comments about Shinn were too harsh. The reality is that Shinn is way too one dimensional, and unfortunately remains so throughout the series.
I was glad and sad when Kira was reintroduced into the series–glad because he whooped major ass, but sad in that it really wasn’t his place I don’t think. At least not to the extent where he all of a sudden became the main character.
Anyway, I didn’t find anything wrong with the ending. In fact, I thought the series as a whole was excellent. Most of the characters were well developed, and the philosophical questions raised were relevant. One thing I didn’t see anyone touch on, was the Chairman’s view about genetic determinism. Everyone called him “insane”, but what if his system really did bring about a better society? Up for debate of course; I’m just mentioning the fact that no one else mentioned it.
i cannot believe savior was not in gundam seed destiny every one including mesaid it would and knew alfthun would pilot it and no savior and its there a thirg series of gundam seed there so many types gundam seed destiny astray gundam seed 0.75 gundam seed msv gundam seed 2 no one knows but one of them have savior also new buster comming out found in sommics the buster is now called buster dagger is has no one laser sword
Athrun1479
You lack creativity, why would you want Kira dead? After all he is the best GUNDAM hero there is. Instead the enemy (whoever it is) should kill someone close to him, like Lacus or Kagari (preferably Lacus). That would make him go completely mad, and become a mass murderer thus making him the next villain. And since he is the supreme coordinator and has the most powerful MS, it would be an awesome showdown between Asuran and Kira (shin gets killed in the last episode fighting Kira and that makes asuran go mad and destroys Kira). This would be the way to kill Kira.
ok… i have been a huge gundam fan ever since the first set gundam seed came out but I was really dissapointed at the end of Gundam seed destiny… I thought they would tie everything together but in the end you were like what?…. but the music and the emotional side of Gundam seed destiny was a lot more intense then in gundam seed… well let me take that back because in Gundam seed Athrun and Kira were best friends yet were rivals… but the music in gUNDAM SEED DESTINY made me want to cry eveyr time but i’m just emotional…
ohhhhhhhh……how sad that GSD end like an awful experienced. I admit that I really like GS and GSD, to be honest also I’m a number #3 fan of this show……. especially their musics…. but i’m not dissappointed about the ending i still like it, maybe the creators of this are running out of time…!!! You know guyz there is another show for the next GSD entitled Gundam Seed Stargazer wanna watch and get information???? about this new show Lacus and Kira have a baby boy and Athrun and Cagalli have a baby girl….hehehe…swwwwwwwweeeeet!!!! thank you…Ãœ
I finished watching stargazer. Thou it was very short(45min total) it was decent.
i think shinn is the best idiot in the series.it was a relief when kira returned cause he kicked reys butt.
strike freedom will win destiny for sure
Ok, first of all, most of the people here are way too criticizing of Shinn, and I think some of that lends to people liking Kira or Athrun. I personally love all the characters and and accept them the way there are (except Jona >_<
Eh? my comment was cut way short….D
Ah, yeah, using the < will cause the comment to think it is a tag, which is prohibited in the comments; sorry =(.
So strange to read all above… Well, I have no favourite characters in this series, so I can speak without too emotional phrases.
The worst part of GSD – many plot lines thet were going way too fast, without believable base for characters’ acting (because of too many “main” characters in this anime maybe?)
For example, I did not like Heine’s death in the FIRST battle (he’s elit & FAITH, after all)
It seems to me that the main idea of all that “repeats” in GSD is duality.
“Minerva” – “Archangel”: to show that there is no “good” and “bad” sides. We see ZAFT vessel (“bad” side from GS) and it’s crew (totally nice guys), and it’s captain (who is in many ways pacifistic), etc. It’s not the remake of the “Archangel’s” journey, it’s the method to show from the inside that ordinary coordinators are “good”, just like the “Archangel” in GS.
I’m absolutely agree that Shinn was heart more then Kira by death of his family. No friend or rare lover can compare in importance with your own blood. So I simply can’t stand Luna, because she is in love with her sister’s murderer. Just try to imagine how can that be? I don’t get.
Shinn and Kira are the main contrast of series, I suppose. First part of GSD is dedicated to Shinn, to show his agony, grief, anger, that he doesn’t want the war but is willing to fight for the right things in his opinion. He is young, unexpirienced and confused. From one side he has Athrun who says many idealistic words that sounds instinctively right for Shinn. From the other side he has Rey, who is much more specific, operates with clear notions and hence is more persuasive. At last Shinn choses the wrong way. Second part of GSD is for Kira. Authors wanted to show more mature, expirienced, smart Kira, the incarnation of all the best human qualities. IMHO, authors’ve failed, their Kira is absolutely unconvincing. Still I’m sure there are TWO main characters in GSD, so they have to get nearly the same amount of screen time.
About fights. It’s obvious that two coolest pilots (not GUNDAMS) are Kira and Athrun. Neither Rey nor Shinn can compare to them on the battlefielde. It was evident that they could be beaten only when they did not want to fight (or when Athrun’s unit was in times worse then Shinn’s or anybody else’). It’s carma, guys! They MUST be the best of the best of the best because it’s the easiest way for author to show that they are GOOD GUYS! ^________~
And the most dramatic part (space wars for the humanity’s future can’t even compare ^___^ ): Athrun, Cagalli and Meyrin.
I was surprised when Mayrin became one of the key characters. Who again is this girl? But I loved very much how she instinctively helped Athrun – without any questions, doubts, etc. Risking her life, note. From the other side Cagalli had her own hard time. Because of Athrun, yes, but mostly because she became the leader of country, hence the great responsibility. She has no time for love now – I see it from this point of view. It is obvious that she choses for her future to take care of Orb and to become the perfect representative for the sake of her people. She still loves Athrun but knows that he deserves the girl who will give him her all (not a 5 minutes between business meetings). And Cagalli sees that Meyrin cares deeply about Athrun. By the way, it seems to me that Cagalli cede Athrun to Meyrin BEFORE the last even understood that they could be in love with each other! So I think it’s kinda nice and even realistic in some ways.
… and a ring… I broke up with my ex two weeks before our wedding and we both were happy and we both are friends now. We just were not meant to each other.
PS: sorry for bad English
I just finished watching Gundam Seed Destiny, and though i enjoyed parts of it, it sucked as a whole! Talk about repetitiveness!!!!! I mean security’s breached and the new proto types are stolen in both GS and GSD, give me some originallity, please…
Athrun and Cagalli are by far the best couple in GS/GSD, and they shud be together. I’d lose whatever little respect i have for the author if Athrun and Meyrin hook up! She was a minor character, who became importnat at the end of the series, and that’s when the author noticed the “potetial relationship”, too little too late, is what I say. I hope that in eternity, or whatever the next one is, that the Athrun/cagalli relationship status is cleared. Are they together or not?
Shinn bugs the hell out of me, like I know he’s been through a lot, but give me a break! He can’t use that as an excuse 4 ever, GROW UP!!!! I’m glad Stellar died, she was an annoying charcter with a limited vocabulary.
kk, well that’s it…4 now
I really hope there’s going to be an “eternity”, I cant wait, and I’m really excited, but the question is…is there really an “eternity” or not, and if there is, when is it coming out?
The music is gud though, on a brighter note.
there’s no eternity… they’re making a gundam seed movie instead
awwww, ratz!! I reaLLY WANted to c eternity….
oh well, I hope they hurry up and make the movie and make the eng re-make or atleast sub it.
I must sincerly agree But to me, loved the beginning the middle but a bit disapointed at the end but I still love the show.If there is no Gundam Seed Eternity & their going to make the movie instead can u tell me when their going to air in the Philippines? pls. pls. n_n
Hello guys! Just passin by to say…I share your pain, anger and whatever emotion you portray! I really love Gundam seed/destiny and I even branded fukuda-san as a Genius! But the ending really leave a big hole in my chest! huhuhuhu! WHY? WHY?!!!! No offense but I am also a certified ASUCAGA fan! and to think that you are really hoping for a good ending then here they come blasting that stupid (excuse me for my use of words) and soul drenching ending…well……I really hope there would be a compensation for all of this! And I know there will be because if not..Then we all have to wait and see what we can do about it! *ahem* Does any of you know what happen to those two (asucaga)? did they really had a daughter like what everyone is saying? if there is then you know what to do! *wink* Nothing more to say because almost everything of what i wanted to say had been ssid by you people! Keep on posting guys and Arigato!
i unnooo-
I was a little dissapointed, actually ALOT dissapointed with the ending episode.
But, other then that, i thought the series was decent.
Personally, i am a big fan of Kira and Lacus.
And i thought that they were SO cute this series. Although that is not what the series is about, i am a sucker for romance.
Hahaha.
Yeah- but i read most of these and i do agree that the ending wasnt what i thought it would be. Although, I am not going to lie, i obviously will watch the next gundam seed series, if there is one of course
And i will especially watch if we have Kira and Lacus still in it
ahahah.
OH they are making a movie!?
Could someone let me know when it is aired in Canada!?
Athrun1479…
WHAT!? Why would you want to destroy Kira???
He is the main character… and by far the best character in my opinion.
He is the ultimate and if he died… or is lacus died… i would refuse to watch the series.
As stated before, i am a complete Kira and Lacus fan.
Also, i love Cagalli and Athrun- and i hope they do end up being together.
As for Kira and Lacus, they are in love, it is very obvious. and i dont think anybody would really be happy if either one of them died.
I don’t know if that’s true, but all my friends would be absolutely devestated if any of them died..
It just wouldn’t be the same..
“Reu Le Mwu Le Klueze”
THANK YOU.
I agree with you absolutely.
And i don’t care who decides to critisize what you said.
You were speaking the truth.
You do have to think more deeply. Good point.
Thank you.
i think the general concensus is that destiny is bad (after reading through all the comments).
regarding shin: angsty teenager. of course people are going to criticize him. if he wasn’t the main character for a big part of the series then maybe he wouldn’t have gotten so much criticism, but he was.
anyways like MOST sequels, this one was totally unnecessary and all it did was kind of ruin SEED for me (i liked the first one quite a bit).
fuck you sunrise.
Hm maybe if Kira wasnt so pro, the fights wouldve been alot more interesting. I wanted to see Kira struggle and still win the end. The fights just werent exciting enough. and the ending sucked and Shinn shudve died in a car crash.
Well, after watching the Special Edition through out the course of two days, I’ll have to say Destiny falls short of my expectations once again.
One of the things that kind of ruined it was the fact that they just kind of left Athrun and Cagalli aside, not really saying what truly happened to their relationship (even though there were subtle hints in the end of the edition). I mean in the end they showed him in an ORB military uniform where as everybody else was in ZAFT , so it makes it obvious she stayed with Cagalli [NOT MEYRIN] . Also, she did NOT give the ring back to Athrun; instead she took it off and kept it in a box in her vanity mirror drawer, which concludes that HER AND ATHRUN DID NOT BREAK UP.So that part I dont have too much to complain. But either make it clear that they’re together or break them up. They’re expecting everybody to pick out little details of whether or not they’re together. (or maybe they just did that for people like me)
BUT they made Shinn so overdramatic.. that it was really annoying to see him get into one of those anger spasms in EVERY freaking battle. He still didn’t understand anything.. and they killed off Rey even though he ended up understanding the gist of it. AND SHINN GETTING TOGETHER WITH LUNA!! Well that was just ridiculous (pardon my bad spelling)!!! I didn’t really like that. I’d rather have him dead .
And turning Meyrin into a key character… mm.. didnt like it so much. I mean I understand how she risked her life into sayign him and stuff but still shes not even as important as Cagalli. I think they should have brought Cagalli more involved in the series, rather than making Meyrin a key character.
ONE THING Im actually happy and content about this series is… they didnt make Kira into such a cry baby . BUT…
.. they ended up making him into looking like an arrogant know it all. I don’t know if its just me feeling that vibe, but the writers ended up making him look like he was all high and mighty, and didnt really need to struggle for anything in particular.I mean look at the battles Kira fought!! Theres no struggle in survival. (Very disappointing)
How uncreative can you get when you name another GUNDAM…. the STRIKE FREEDOM! The combination of names of Kira’s old suits. Wow, thats just truly amazing. =.=
I mean honestly , could they have not thought of anything better than the Strike Freedom? Talk about lack of ideas much…
I think the series lost sight of what they were truly aiming for, cause in the end it ended to be a big pile of ape poo. Hopefully , whatever series or movie they come up with, they better clear up some things cause the ending REALLY left it loose. I’ll still watch it even though GSD sucked. (Not saying that I didnt enjoy GSD.. im a sucker for romance).
[Sorry about my little rant] xD
About the ending. Of course Kira and Athrun are going to be the best. They have years of experience with top of the line mobile suits. Shinn and Rey are inexperienced. Kira and Athrun weren’t trying their hardest because they didn’t want to kill them. Rey and Shinn did. Rey did because Kira kill Rau. Shinn was trying his hardest because he thinks Athrun is a traitor and doesn’t trust the Chairman. And the nest series is going to be Gundam 00. Eternity or Enternal rumors are lies.
Also, one thing that baffles me is how the hell can Kira and Athrun use the Freedom and the Justice is Gundam SEED flawlessly. Kira yes because he is the ultimate coordinator, but Athrun how? He went to the academy for a number of years in order to pilot the Ageis. Like WTF.
Um, RandomPanda. This is your opinion. They did not bring Cagalli out because she did not play a very good role. She fought for ORB. ORB signed the contract or whatever. That was it. Like she couldn’t have done much more. She has no comabt experience, or very little of it. Also, Meryin and Luna are secondary characters sort of Like Rey. Athrun was the main obviously. But they are apart of ZAFT. They can’t just have two people that represent ZAFT in the series. They need other people’s point of view. Also, you know what I find kinda stupid? When Shinn stepped in the first battle of the series saying, “You want to start another war?” Then he meets with the Chairman saying “Fight if we need too”. Lol. Contradicting himself. And the reason why I think they killed Rey off is because how would it end? Shinn goes with Kira etc. Why would they stay with ZAFT? They betrayed them in a way. Rey is like Rau. Hates Kira because of the genetics and because he is the Ultimate coordinator. Though Rey found out about Kira and decided that his path was correct. Why he stayed with the Chairman after he shot him, I don’t know. Yes he is his waht would you call it. Step father I guess. But if he knew the path of the Chairman was wrong why would he stay. Kira. Wow. barley even in Destiny at all. Like “I don’t want to fight, wah wah. Fight to stop the war. Like he has amazing skills. Why would he step out if he had power to stop the war potentially. I would like to see another one with Kira, Athrun and Shinn. But that is not going to happen. About the name of the Gundam. Strike Freedom. All it is an enhanced version of the original. Same goes for the Justice. Why call it like lighting blade or another name when it will just be more powerful then the last one. Also, I hate the cockpit explosions. First one I hate is when Nichol gets his blown up. The Gundam should have blow up before he said “Athrun, run away. Next one is how Kira survived. Athrun blew up the Aegis in front of him. All he had was stomach wounds. No face, no broken bones. He can;t have steel skin. Then the Mu Gundam explosion. His helmet was cracked. That explains his brain problem. But come on. Like how can anyone survive that. Like wow.
Oh ya how did Andrew Watfiled survive. That was the other fight….
Does anyone know if Stella dies in the T.V show? I’m all lost (havn’t keep-up-to-date)
**Spoiler**
i hate kira. Why!? why!? he killed my favorite female character!!! ssshhhhhhiiiiiiiiinnnnnnn rrrrrrrrooooooooocccccckkkkkkkk kira sux
What female did he kill?
Does Kira die? (crossing fingers) Hope not ^_^
he kills stella and does kira die and does shinn die in gundam seed destiny. I hope shinn lives and does lunamaria and shinn have something going on hope so !!!!!!!!!! Well I hpoe one of u girls or guys could answer me so kk
hah! YA sucker! Kira lives. I own the other Gundam seed seires. Kira is too inocent to dies. (^.^) SHIN STINKS >.
To the guy who is BObby. I’ve got footage of later on Season of the 5 Gundam Seed (limited edition). Unfortunitly for you, Shinn does die by ‘Lunamaria’. She then takes her own life. This footage is on Youtube as : The PAthetic PPL Die ALL thE TiMe. And For everyone else, Kira is alive and healthy. Shinn-san……you suck. haha, I’m in my Forties and I still hate that Sob. God I wanna kill him too. “look at me, my life is sad” Booo hooo hooo. Kira is the Man.
i am very very dissapointed to it`s ending npk wlang kuwenta i know that it`s very hard making those scenes but it don`t satisfy my taste of watching sana g wings nlang ang ipinalit sa gs para d nlang kami umasa ng magandang ending ng kwento
i wish there was a 3rd gundam seed but it was more action n stuff lyk that n i hoped if they did make 1 that kira, athrun cagalli and lacus wouldn’t die n there was more time 4 them but o well
new gun seris is Gundam OO 300 yrs from the yr 2000 there is no coordinators or any thing its just plain humans boring…
Shinn does not die. Wow. 00 might be interesting. You won’t have 1 guy who owns everyone, you won’t have one who has amazing powers out of now where.
And 5th Gunadam series? There is only two…
And by the way, that is not even on Youtube.
When will ATHRUN ZALA find the LOVE-OF-HIS-LIFE???He has been dating Lacus Clyne & Cagalli Yula Attha,but they’re NOT together anymore!(i meant cagalli)I made my OWN story about Athrun & his new GF who is a FAITH princess.that’s his love 4ever & his new GF had a baby girl.His new GF will have short black hair & purple eyes.IN MY OWN LONG STORY!!
dude u guys are retarded….At The end… of PLUS. It shows Lacus being the chairwoman of ZAFT. SO kira goes to ZAFT jus to be with lacus. Since Cagalli is ORB(With Earth Alliance) & Lacus is now in ZAFT. There’s not going to be any more gay ass war.
Shin & Lunamaria/Meyrin stays in ZAFT. Athrun stays in ORB with Cagalli. There you go.
holy crap ive been reading this and damn theres alot of shinn haters, like i can understand why u would hate him but holy crap “all he lost was his familly and stella” so in otherwords most of the people he held close in life. As far as who’s had more BS happen to them kira//shinn it all depends on what you consider worse. Kira may have all that pressure but at least he has lacus and alot of people that are like familly to him, but shin? He has his familly (dead) stella//stellar (dead)hes got lunamaria and someone at some point should give kira a ass-whoopin for killing stella and fucking up shinn’s life…besides that’d be a interesting twist lol
either way u got to admit shinn and stella deserve better then what they get…but thats life
P.S i dont really like shinn either but jesus you dont have to go on and on about how he sucks
It was the worst Anime iv ever seen. I was expecting something spectacular but instead they give me THIS and switch main characters to some Naive Puss who in the end saved the day. What a waste as for people saying ”Shinn sucked, he was emo. Shinn was a waste of char. Shinn could never beat Kira”
You saw it yourself, quit acting like your blind he RAPED Kira with an Inferior Mobile Suit. As for his Emoness if your parents died too dont tell me you wouldnt go Emo hes more of a character than Kira you can say what you want but thats the T-r-u-t-h and in Seed Kira was a hell of a bigger emo than Shinn. I mean, im suprised i watched Seed with all the Emoness it had and his parents didnt die. Im done proving my point.
But seriously though this almost made me give up Gundam, they were on the right track till they switched what were they thinking?
Lets hope the next Gundam Anime doesnt show dissapointment as much as this did.
I totally agree with many of you. the story just fell starting at ep 30 or so. dudinal or watever forgot how to spell, his “great conspiracy” was presented in a very sloppy way, i strongly think it can be reinforced. last but not least its the ending, its just very unorganized and the story totally fell. unlike in gundam seed, throughout the series were suprises.
i’ve just finished watching this series and i agree that the ending is disappointing, but i do hope that Cagali and Athrun would end up together please…. I’m begging the writers please.. Meyrin seems to be a Descent girl but Cagali and Athrum have been through a lot of things and i hate to see them not ending in each others arms… plsssss…….
THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS SHOW-I MYSELF SHALL SEE THIS “ENDING” AND DETERMINE WITH MY OWN TWO HANDS WHETER OR NOT IT’S BAD. BUT, SHINN IS JUST A WEE BIT ANNOYING BUT WITHOUT AN ANNOYING CHARACTER THERE WOULD BE NO SHOW.I SEE THAT ALOT OF DEVELOPED CHARACTERS GET LABELED “EMO”BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN’T HANDLE SHOWS WITH REAL EMOTION TO THEM… IT’S A SHAME. ANNOYING BEHAVIOR IS PART OF THE DUAL NATURE OF HUMANITY – YOU SIMPLY CANNOT CONTROL OR PREDICT HOW YOUR FELLOW HUMANS WILL ACT AROUND YOU BECAUSE HUMANS POSSESS A WIDE RANGE OF EMOTIONS. ABOUT THE DIRECTORS WELL, I’M SURE THEY TRIED THEIR HARDEST TO GIVE US ALL A QUALITY PRODUCT SO, TONE DONE THE HATRED OKAY? EVERY LIVING DIRECTOR ON THIS EARTH HAS CHURNED OUT A NOT-SO-HOT-PRODUCT BUT THAT IS PART OF A DIRECTOR’S JOB… I WILL ADMIT THAT FOLLOWING STELLA’S END THINGS GOT BIZZARRE(CASE IN POINT-HOW THE SPARK OF PRIMUS DID CHAOS GUNDAM’S PILOT SURVIVE BEING CUT UP TWICE? LUCKIEST BASTARD EVER-OH HELLZ YES AND HOW DID THE NUCLEAR POWERED FREEDOM NOT KILL SHINN AND KIRA? THE EXPLOSION FROM JUSTICE ALONE FRIED GENESIS TO A CRISP..) THIS SHOW HAS STAYING POWER BECAUSE NOTHING WAS TOO EASY AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF PAIN AND SORROW TO GO AROUND…CAGALLI DISPLAYED HONEST TO GOD CONFUSION AS SHE WATCHED HER COUNTRY UNRAVEL AROUND HER A TRUE GLIMPSE OF HUMAN PAIN THAT MANY SHOWS NOW CANNOT MATCH. AS FOR KIRA, I AM FORCED TO SAY THAT HE MAY BE TOO POWERFUL-BUT EVERY SHOW NEEDS ONE GOD-LIKE CHARACTER SO LESSERS CAN HATE HIM AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN CHARACTERS TRYING TO STOP HIM ALONG THE WAY DISCOVERING WHO THEY TRULY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE MADE OF-IT IS THE JOURNEY OF LIFE,LOVE,FAILURE,VICTORY,RAGE,VENGEANCE AND DISCOVERY…(BASICALLY THE MAKINGS OF A GREAT SHOW IF EXECUTED RIGHT.) SOMEONE TELL ME, WHAT IS SUPPOSEDLY SO WRONG WITH THIS SHOW?! I JUST WANNA KNOW.DON’T GIVE UP ON ANIME BECAUSE OF THIS-MANY SHOWS HAVE PROBLEMS LIKE THESE BUT THEY RECOVER AND SO LONG AS IT DOES’NT END UP LIKE HOW POKEMONIS NOW I AM PLEASED.OVERLOOK THE GIANT FLAWS AND YOU MAY SEE A BEAUTIFUL WHOLE-BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK??? GAZE UPON IT AND GIVE THE SERIES A SECOND CHANCE… STOP CALLING DEVELOPED CHARACTERS “EMO”- I’D RATHER SEE AN “EMO” CHARACTER THAN A FLAT CHARACTER RUNNING AROUND DOING THE SAME (BLEEP) OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH EMOTIONAL CHARACTERS? SINCE WHEN IS IT A CRIME TO CREATE CHARACTERS WHO MIRROR THE DAMAGED STATE OF THE HUMAN PSYCHE? SO SHINN SUCKS BECAUSE HE HAS EMOTION? HEHEHEH. I’M SORRY IF I SOUND SANCTIMONIOUS HERE… THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO MY POINT OF VIEW- GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL GOD BLESS YOU ALL. BYE BYE.
I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!!
i want so bad to make love to EVERY WOMAN IN SEED-MEER ESPECIALLY AND THEN STELLA THEN FLAY ABBOUT 22 TIMES
IS THAT FINGER THING THAT DESTINY DOES A VAGUE HOMAGE TO THE GOD/DARKNESS/SHINING/RISING FINGER?
i agree with what your saying and i thot it was shocking whan they killed stella that sucked thay should have went a diffrent way
One thing I don’t get in GSD is that the main character is so unlikable. Watching the whole thing, you don’t even know wich one is the main character. So I just decided to go with Kira because he is after all the original character. Shinn is so annoying, definitely the most annoying character I know and I would’ve love to see him die..hehe.. The ending is so bad that it’s like most of the Japanese porn I’ve seen that when the guy is about to cum, he just do it fast and only says 3 words…oh,oh,oh….. I mean come on!! no real emotions it’s simply not a climax and that’s how I see in this ending…well, all the Gundam series ending. I hope they would come up with a better ending because I’m a huge fan..
was there a movie made as an OVA for Destiny? is it out yet? what’s the deal with the Gundam Eternalty? is with the same characters of the SEED series?
T_T omggg…..in the final OVA, it shows Kira & Lacus, Shin & Luna, and Athrun with Merlyn……wtf???? where’s Cagali?!?!?!
i mean….Merlyn’s an okay girl, but wasn’t Cagali and Athrun’s engagement back on since she didn’t marry that asshole Yuna? omg!!!!!
i’ve just realized that there’s two versions of episode 50. one is really really short and abrupt, without the whole thing at the end about how kira+shin+athrun+lacus+luna+merlyn visits the graves. and the other version has that….>.< which version is the real one? so messed up….i can’t believe the shorter version just decided to CUT OUT the actual ending! like wtf?
I’m So mad Cause i so badly wannted Athrun and Cagalli to get togeather all they got were trubles and misunderstandings, but Lacus and kira need a wedding just like Athrun and Cagalli i was hoping for some conclusion to the romance and add that they got married or somthing after all They deserve it…oh well thats my opinoin but i hate how it ended errr but from what ive heard the movie (if there is one) will have Athrun as the main character but He’ll FALL FOR Miyr errr i only wannted to see him with Cagalli after all shes not really married but shes so faithful to Athrun …but Shinn is cool just a little bit of a child that has had problems Kira is still that awsome char from SEED. <3 still bad ending…
i love it i love everything about gundam and the ending if gundam seed destiny you rock guy
i hate shinn. it killed freedom gundam.Freedom was destroy by a bitch.How SAD
Just a question…is it just me? or are the artists of this cartoon racist or somthing??! Were talking about the whole world at war here…and I dont think I’ve seen a single black person! Whats up with that?
seems like they will be a movie about seed destiny…and apparently stella will be in it…but unfortunately its put on hold because one of the producers got sick…sucks!!!